Play ragtime on a Bösendörfer flügel?
I'd actually love to hear that.
Play ragtime on a Bösendörfer flügel?
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I love the sound of drop D on classical! It really changes the tone of the instrument to my ears. Love this thread!
When I went from 6-string to 8-string electric, I had a good few months of adjusting to it. Now I can play any-stringed instruments
To be an equal smartarse, yep. I'd need time to adjust, but can easily figure out how to make music on them. Strings are easy.Just to be a smart @ss, what about these:
Hey all! I'm a bit late to the party, but since I've got a fair amount of experience in this arena I figured I'd weigh in too.
I've been studying classical guitar at CSUS School of Music for almost two years now. I came in as a transfer student after completing an AA in guitar at community college. Back then I played six string, but I switched to seven between schools.
When I made the switch I was in the process of memorizing prepared repertoire for my audition and I didn't have much trouble adjusting to the extra string at that point. I actually learned the prelude from one of the lute suites (BWV 998) with a low A just like Given To Fly was talking about. The audition went well and professor Savino enjoyed the low notes.
It wasn't until I started my studies in the program that I had any difficulty with the seventh string. I had always done very well playing from memory in the past, but became to busy to memorize my repertoire thoroughly anymore. I found that I had been using my eyes as a crutch and that the seventh string did indeed cause me to stumble while reading, mainly my right thumb like Given to Fly mentioned. It took me close to a year to iron that out...
I haven't faced too much snobbery about my seven-string. There is actually a surprising number of seven-string guitarists in Northern California. One of our community college guitar teachers uses one, and so does one of the grad students here. Our professor is actually having one made, but he prefers to tune the low string to D. I've been working on the first cello suite with him in that tuning, actually. I tried to arrange it for low A originally but he felt the D was more idiomatic.
Thank you for sharing! Honestly, I have not faced snobbery but I certainly did not ask for anyones advice about whether or not buying a 7 string concert classical guitar was a good idea. I already knew everybody would say No. That was a wise decision on my part. Ironically, everyone enjoys the low notes but very few people will buy instruments that actually have them.
Thank you for mentioning your "right hand thumb." I really think that is where people will struggle the most when making the switch. Maybe I should move to Northern California if that is where the 7 string classical guitarists are congregating.
My friend ,seems like you are the one who can help me.
I have a 7 string nylon guitar and i never found a really good book to learn classical music on it.Since i am brazillian , most of the material i can find is about Samba, which don't get my attention.
You have any material you can recommend ?
I would classify my playing level as intermediate /advanced, as i play guitar and cello, i can read with ease sheets and have familiarity with the fretboard
I have a 7 string nylon guitar and i never found a really good book to learn classical music on it. Since i am brazillian , most of the material i can find is about Samba, which don't get my attention.
You have any material you can recommend ?
Hey! Late to the party as always, but hopefully you'll come back.
I actually have the Frank Koonce edition of the complete Bach lute works. In his scores, he indicates where he's transposed bass notes up an octave to fit in the guitar range. If you have a seven string with a low A, you can put most of them back in the lute range. Generally, you can keep the rest of Koonce's fingerings intact, just moving a note over from the regular A to the low A here and there. There are also images of the Bach autographs in the back of the book if you want to read from them, but some are in flats...
Other than that, I have mostly done what our resident expert Given to Fly has, just moving things down an octave when it makes for a good effect or enhances the integrity of a line.
There is actually some 19th century 7-string repertoire out there, though I'm not super familiar with it. Some works by Napoleon Coste (a 7-string player) include optional bass notes below the range of normal guitar. I've also heard rumblings of discoveries of manuscripts of 7-string guitar music in Mexico and Russia - I believe in both cases it's associated with the travels of European composers, not traditional music from those countries. I don't think any of it has been compiled or published yet, but keep your eyes open.
Just to be a smart @ss, what about these:
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The Russian 7 string guitar is its own thing. The guitar is designed different, tuned different, and it has its own specific repertoire. The only music that is played on the Russian 7 string guitar is Russian 7 string guitar music and I think the Russians want to keep it that way. This is not a bad thing either. I would compare it to something like American bluegrass. At no point is anyone going to tell the banjo player, "You know, you don't always have to play 16th notes for the entire song. Why not try playing something different?"
Right, I'm aware that the Russian seven-string is a different animal. The repertoire I'm talking about was actually written for classical seven-string with a low B. I was discussing seven string rep with an instructor over beers when he brought up this stuff from Russia. I also assumed it was folk/open tuned stuff but he assured me it was not - in fact I believe he said it was somehow influenced by Sor's time in Moscow. I've been meaning to follow up with him about that conversation because I'm a little hazy on the details...
In other news, I recently got a Milagro MRC-7. I know guys on this board have had some varied experiences with the Bartolex company, but my particular instrument is outstanding. Aside from the shiny lacquer finish, it could pass for something a few times as expensive as what I paid for it used. The woods and workmanship are quite nice, and it has a powerful, colorful sound. The string spacing is a bit narrower than normal, but I adjusted quickly and it hasn't been a problem.
Shows you what I know.
Where do you guys get your 7th string?