The curtain call for Alex Jones?

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Harmful behavior...that’s a philanthropists wet dream to conquer
 

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Ok you guys keep talking about Sandy Hook and gay frogs. What else has Alex Jones done to cause so much harm in the world. Of course these are the only two things the mainstream media parrots to you guys.

It's because the first one is disgusting and offensive to most people's sense of morality and has caused undue harm to innocent people, and the 2nd one, it's the fact that the way he expressed his outrage was immensely meme-able.

He's basically been spouting anarchistic fear-mongering for years. Telling his listeners that routine National Guard training sessions are proof the government is training up to enslave americans. he tells people that 9/11, the oklahoma city bombing, etc are all events orchestrated by the government as false-flag operations. He was one of the louded voices propegating "Pizzagate"

After deleting a video with the following quote, he then said that he was referencing US foreign policy in Syria:

Alex Jones said:
When I think about all the children Hillary Clinton has personally murdered and chopped up and raped, I have zero fear standing up against her. Yeah, you heard me right. Hillary Clinton has personally murdered children. I just can’t hold back the truth anymore.

To me, that's like walking into a police station and claiming, "I personally just killed a person. You heard me right. I've personally killed someone.", but then getting upset when you are arrested because you totally just meant that because you were a smoker for so many years that statistically, if you added up the tiny effects of all of the 2nd hand smoke you've exposed hundreds of people to, that it would have all added up to kill a hypothetical person.

Not to mention:
Alex Jones said:
I have footage in Austin — we’re going to find it somewhere here at the office — where it literally looks like cast of 'Seinfeld' or like Howard Stern in a Nazi outfit. They all look like Howard Stern. They almost got like little curly hair down, and they’re just up there heiling Hitler. You can tell they are totally uncomfortable, they are totally scared, and it’s all just meant to create the clash.

Alex Jones said:
the head of the Jewish mafia is George Soros, he’s out to get Jews.


He's claimed that the government is putting chemicals in juiceboxes with the purpose of turning kids gay.

Alex jones said:
The reason there are so many gay people now is because it's a chemical warfare operation. I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so people don't have children.

Planned parenthood, the EPA, and carbon taxes are proof the "new world order" government will start exterminating people:

Alex jones said:
“With the New World Order, the global government’s only the beginning; once they get that in place they’re going to start an orderly extermination of the population. The ultimate goal of the New World Order, is to eliminate 80 percent of the global population—people the elites regard as nuisances who use up too many resources.”

Supposedly an atmospheric research station in Alaska caused earthquakes in chine killing 90,000 and the US Navy caused the big haiti earthquak, killing 100,000, as a means to occupy Haiti for military purposes.

I mean...at what point is it no longer a matter of a difference of opinion, and something beyond? In my opinion, he dances on that line, and sometimes trips up.

The gay frogs has been proven scientifically. The herbicide atrazine is actually turning male frogs into females. So where are the lies?

Not to nit-pick, but aren't those two separate statements?

How about the mainstream media portraying all Trump supporters as rascists and nazis. Isn’t that causing harm to innocent people? Should we start suing them now?

No, because that's not really the case. When the media and anyone but leftist extremists say "Nazis", they aren't talking about "the right". They are talking about people who act like Nazis. And a significant portion seems to fall on the right. Does it mean the right is all Nazis? No. Are there Nazis on the right? You betcha. I've got some in my family, and their facebook wall is hilarious and terrifying.
 
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...and this is all justification for the coordinated ban of Alex Jones right before the mid-term elections. Gotcha.
It’s also convenient that they delete all his videos so no one can actually hear what he really said. Great for demonizing a person.


Funny you mention George Soros, a self admitted Nazis collaborator. Wasn’t the Democratic Party the party of the KKK back when they were most active?

I’m sure your family members that are nazis are probably banned on Facebook by now though.
 

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@Pseudo-Intellectual - Can you provide actually provide support for your claim that Jones has been winning the majority of his lawsuits?

Or is that claim just some BS you made up or heard, and a data piint regarding your credibility?

I'm hoping for the former, that you have actual citations, instead of you beclowning yourself. Now's the time to either school us, or to put on your big boy pants and admit you were wrong. Either of those will be options on the adult menu.

Or, you could just go with something on the kids menu.

Here's hoping no crayons are called for!
 

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Regardless of how you feel about Jones, banning him is not a good thing for freedom lovers and is clearly another step towards an Orwellian Society...which might be your thing, IDK
 

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...and this is all justification for the coordinated ban of Alex Jones right before the mid-term elections.

Well, no. It should have happened a long time ago, one at a time, as outlets decided enough was enough...but they all waited until one shoe dropped, and then they all followed suit once that keg was tapped, and they didn't have to worry about being the first. Some even said they were going to still hold off, but then public pressure seems to have forced their hand shortly after.

It’s also convenient that they delete all his videos so no one can actually hear what he really said. Great for demonizing a person.

Well, no shit it's convenient. "I don't want his voice on my platform...but I'm going to leave everything he's said up, for all to see and associate with my platform." It's easy to demonize a demon when they bring it on himself.


Wasn’t the Democratic Party the party of the KKK back when they were most active?

In a way. Things weren't as black and white in terms of political parties. There were conservative democrats. The "right" of the "left". There were also progressive republicans. The KKK were primarily from the conservative democrate "Dixiecrats". I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

I’m sure your family members that are nazis are probably banned on Facebook by now though.

One has been, although he's taken over his dead wife's account and posting less...er..."obvious" material. Good ol' uncle Leroy...
 

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Regardless of how you feel about Jones, banning him is not a good thing for freedom lovers and is clearly another step towards an Orwellian Society...which might be your thing, IDK

He's free to make his own Facebook and Twitter. The rest of the world is free to ignore him.
 

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Regardless of how you feel about Jones, banning him is not a good thing for freedom lovers and is clearly another step towards an Orwellian Society...which might be your thing, IDK
How exactly, though? Freedom of speech is emphatically not freedom from consequences.

It strikes me how many of the people who frame the use of platforms for hate speech or lies for the purpose of instigating a volatile listener-ship as a free speech issue would be pretty quick to chime in with the opposite opinion if the same platforms were disseminating Islamist extremism.
 

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Hmm... coupe89, can you point to anyone on the left who tweeted anything like "BarackObama How bout we do this, let's put your cowardly ass on the top of a roof with 6 of your buddies&shoot rpg's&Ak47's at you..." and didn't get banned?

The Twitter rules do state that one can be banned for violent threats.

And only the most ignorant would claim that violent threats are a defining characteristic of the right.

Come on... that's either laziness preventing you from being an adult and checking your own claimed grievance, or deliberate and willful ignorance. Neither does credit to conservatives.

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I'm getting less hopeful that PI will find his big boy pants, incidentally....
 

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I dunno if Hell exists but one version of it would most certainly be getting merc'd by that guy and his nasally voice being the last thing you hear.
 

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I can't believe how YOUNG he is. The guy's looked 40 for the 17 years I've been aware of him (he's in the movie Waking Life, from 2001), but he's only 44 now! I guess his pills and salves and whatnot don't work.
 

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I would take Wikipedia with a grain of salt...They are like the ministry of truth in 1984.

I will repeat my point again. This has nothing to do with what you are saying because he has been doing broadcasting and making documentaries for over 20 years. Even when Obama was President, they didn’t do anything to shut him down.

So why all of a sudden the complete shut down of him? That’s cause Trump won and people like Jones were effective in helping him get elected. This obviously wasn’t suppose to happen. But it did and now they are lashing back. Plain and simple.

And hey you are entitled to your opinion about Alex Jones. You think he’s full of shit. And I think the mainstream media is full of shit. Who is right?

All I know is you get your news from places like the NY times and Washington Post. Both owned by the richest men in the world, so I don’t know if what they are spewing is in my best interest.
Ok, so if Wikipedia is wrong, give me examples of lawsuits he's won.

And you're attacking the Washington Post and New York Times because they're wealthy, not because their reporting is wrong. I'm attacking Alex Jones because his reporting is wrong. You're making a pretty clear logical fallacy, going after the source, not the content.
 

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Ok you guys keep talking about Sandy Hook and gay frogs. What else has Alex Jones done to cause so much harm in the world. Of course these are the only two things the mainstream media parrots to you guys.

The gay frogs has been proven scientifically. The herbicide atrazine is actually turning male frogs into females. So where are the lies?

How about the mainstream media portraying all Trump supporters as rascists and nazis. Isn’t that causing harm to innocent people? Should we start suing them now?
Without bothering to factcheck your claim that it's been proven scientifically and just taking your claim at face value, technically speaking, if this pesticide is causing male frogs to become female, then it's not making them gay, it's making them travsvestite.

Other than Sandy Hook, he's claimed 9/11 was an inside job, the Charlottesville video of a dude driiving his Mustang into a crowd was a fake with paid actors, the Pizzagate sex ring hoax, the Chibani sex ring/cancer hoax, that the Parkland shooting was a hoax with paid actors, that vaccines cause autism, that Hurricane Irma was created by the government, that Harvey's response was intentionally bungled by Democrats to hurt Trump... Shall I continue? Heck, this is the guy who even admitted under oath that he doesn't actually believe what he says on his show and it's just a "character" he plays, as part of his child custody hearing.

The reason Sandy Hook is getting so much media attention at the moment, aside from his comments being absolutely shameful, is the fact that he's the subject of a currently ongoing lawsuit about the claims he's made.

As far as "the mainstyream media portraying all Trump supporters as racists and Nazis," that's hyperbole. However, there's pretty good polling data to suggest that support of Donald Trump increases the conditional policy of also being racist - here's an example - and a non-negligible percentage of Trump's supporters ARE openly racist, and his strong support from neo-Nazi and white nationalist groups (aka - the "alt-right") is further evidence of this. And, the refrain I've often seen from the left is that if a Trump voter wasn't actually motivated by racism in supporting Trump, then at a minimum he or she didn't consider racism a dealbreaker. That's pretty clearly concerning.

tl;dr - the difference between "Parkland was a false flag operation with crisis actors!" and "There are a significant percentage of Trump voters that also are either openly racist or express attitudes that would generally be considered racist," is that there is zero concrete evidence for the former, and there's pretty good data to support the latter. That's why Alex Jones has a credibility problem.
 

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I can't believe how YOUNG he is. The guy's looked 40 for the 17 years I've been aware of him (he's in the movie Waking Life, from 2001), but he's only 44 now! I guess his pills and salves and whatnot don't work.
I mean, alternately, they DO work, and they've just stopped time for him, and for anyone who buys his special anti-time serum, a steal at only $2,750 for a two-week supply!
 

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Lol maybe I will. Haven’t been paying attention to all the lies in a while. All I would have to do is turn on the TV to get a topic.

I put on the news this morning before heading in to work and the only news stories I saw were the local weather coverage and the reporting on Hurricane Florence. But I suppose that is a lie. The mainstream news organizations must have invented Florence to scare people out of the Carolinas in order to make it easier for the rich people to move in and take over the resources there. :spock: :nuts:

Or perhaps it is a bigger conspiracy. Maybe the government seeded the atmosphere with chemtrails to create the hurricane in order to destroy the people in the Carolinas because they were ordered to do so by their reptilian overlords who are, in reality, are not really reptiles but, in fact, Jar Jar Binks, who was only portrayed as an incompetent racist characterization so that we would all let our guards down and become softer targets for the chemtrail hurricanes. :spock: :nuts: :rofl:

Or maybe it's just hurricane season and the media are covering it because it is, in fact, reality.


The gay frogs has been proven scientifically. The herbicide atrazine is actually turning male frogs into females. So where are the lies?

There are many species of amphibians that can change gender on their own, and apparently at least one that does so as a result of exposure to atrazine. When they do so, they are not gay, but rather fully transformed into the opposite gender as if they had originally been born that way.

So for Jones to take that bit of information and twist it into the implication that the government intentionally puts atrazine in tap water to turn people gay is a bit of a stretch, no?


How about the mainstream media portraying all Trump supporters as rascists and nazis. Isn’t that causing harm to innocent people? Should we start suing them now?

The media doesn't portray all Trump supporters as racists and nazis. They only portray those Trump supporters who are, in fact, racists and/or nazis as racists and/or nazis (see the Charlottesville Unite The Right rally in August 2017 as an example of such people).

Wait, I just thought of something. This must be it. Hurricane Florence is really headed towards Charlottesville as God's revenge on all the mainstream media libtards for not supporting the Unite The Right protesters! Yeah, that must be it! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 


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