It suggests a fantasy because everyone knows American wealth is consolidated on the coasts.
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MetalDestroyer
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It suggests you live in a fantasy world because this is made up
EDIT: here's some actual facts for you:
Religious Landscape Study
Explore the geographic distribution and demographics of America's major religious groups.
www.pewresearch.org
High income earners are split right down the middle
Conservatism seems to be a pretty unpopular ideology doesn't it?
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But it's not. You all speak in these generalities and then quote data which often has some skew to it. I've been on this rock long enough to have known quite a few successful conservative folks and I've known quite a few poor liberals. Then vice versa. It's complex. When you have more life experience than you do, you start to have a better understanding of how things really are versus relying on someone elses biased interpretation of things. Often the problem with people with advanced college degrees is they come out thinking they have this understanding of the world when they really don't.
TedEH
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That's a crock if I've ever read one. If a person decides the whole exercise of life is to enjoy it on their own terms, there's no objective measurement to say they're wrong.
I didn't say conservatives are successful, there are plenty of not-successful conservatives. What I said was that conservatives are those who don't see a problem with existing systems. But lets say that is what I said, what does it suggest? Survivorship bias. It suggests that successful conservatives can't see past their own nose.
Leftists would love to make adjustment.... to the systems we operate in. You were so close.
MetalDestroyer
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Go re-read my post, all the way through this time
DrewH suffers from Kunting-Doucher.
Big Dumb Bitch
Evil trans lady >:3
This thread is way funnier now that I have DrewH ignored cuz I have no idea what he's saying but I'm 1000% sure it's just him bragging and having stupid takes about literally everything. I get to use my imagination and try to find out why he's getting roasted all the time and it's kinda fun lol
You mean the one you edited while I was responding?
Yeah, the low income tiers are dominated by Democrats...hmmm.. not helping your case. Split down the middle is an interesting thing to say when Republicans win @ those upper income levels. Ironic that the people you try to vilify are better at navigating this life than you leftists are. Maybe because they just STFU and work rather than cry.
MetalDestroyer
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You're not so great at interpreting data are you
Drew
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You literally were the one putting forth the generality that "conservative people are successful and leftists are poor" a couple posts before this one.
Plenty of stupid-rich conservatives. Plenty of stupid-rich liberals, too. Ability to build wealth has very little to do with political philosophy.
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1) You are being a bit of a baby if you put anyone on ignore on a forum.
2) Ignore function on forums is generally useless anyways.
I really don't think you are in this case.
MetalDestroyer
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Not playing that game this time. The one who makes the claim first is the one who has to do the explaining. You tell me im seeing it wrong, then explain.please explain
MetalDestroyer
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Ah so you can't. I'll explain it to you then.
As income increases, likelihood of being conservative increases. Even at the top income band, you are not significantly more likely to be conservative than democratic (3% difference).
When you meet someone making as much as you, it is statistically a coin toss whether or not they are conservative. Therefore, if everyone you know who earns in the top income bracket are conservative, then you are objectively not sampling a representative subset of the population.
For those following along, here's the link again: https://www.pewresearch.org/religio...are/party-affiliation/by/income-distribution/
3% seems small. But, the actual number is about 1.5M difference in households using 2022 data. Couldn't find anything more current. That number is not insignificant.
zappatton2
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If I might get anecdotal for a moment, seems to me the solid-red States aren't exactly awash in exorbitant levels of wealth.
I could be wrong, I don't have data in front of me, but while I don't doubt that rich conservatives form a solid body of the tax-cutting, let me squeeze every drop of profit from the workforce and environment, old-school trickle-down conservative, the Trump Cult seems less about wealth and hard work, and more about electing someone to bring down an iron fist on all the imaginary enemies Tucker tells them about.
I could be wrong, I don't have data in front of me, but while I don't doubt that rich conservatives form a solid body of the tax-cutting, let me squeeze every drop of profit from the workforce and environment, old-school trickle-down conservative, the Trump Cult seems less about wealth and hard work, and more about electing someone to bring down an iron fist on all the imaginary enemies Tucker tells them about.
zappatton2
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And I will add, the idea that valuing hard work is the exclusive purview of conservatives is nonsense, in line with the idea that "only Conservatives are patriotic". Maybe progressives are less about Nationalism/Jingoism, and maybe they are less about worker exploitation and the increasing concentration of wealth that has nothing to do with "effort and hard work", but I guarantee a great many put a great deal into their work, and I dare say, even take pride in it, when it is the sort of profession one is inclined to take pride in.
TedEH
Cromulent
I could have also sworn that a big conservative boogieman was "liberal elites".
