a well regulated militia

[narad]

So, poking around Google, the closest match to Glades' story is Guatemala - gun control was implemented in 1964, and in the late 70s and early 80s it's now generally accepted that the government's actions against the Mayans constitute genocide, after the government decided Mayan peasants were siding with rebels in a bloody civil war. Estimates run around 40,000-60,000 were killed.

The biggest problems with this "gun control led to fascists murdering us." One, it's an awfully long time between cause and effect, damned near 20 years. Two, this occurred in the middle of a civil war, so there were obviously no shortages of guns in the country held by opposition-aligned Guatemalans. And three, sustenance-level Mayan farmers probably wouldn't have been buying AK47s in a contra-factual world were gun control didn't exist, considering the Rio Negro massacres were kicked off after Mayans were arrested for allegedly stealing beans, because they were starving.

Maybe the bigger issue here isn't gun control, it's just that civil wars are really, really, really shitty things to live through, and tend to involve a LOT of human rights abuses up to and including genocide.

Could be wrong here, but ten minutes of poking around on Google suggests that Glades is probably at least in his 50s if he remembers this, and was Guatemalan before coming to Florida - likely as a refugee, which makes his views on immigration that much more surprising.

Gotta stop those illegals from coming in! Except when they're coming from such a politically shitty place that the government calls them refugees. Then that's totally different.

Right-wing hypocrisy checks out.

 

[Drew]

Gotta stop those illegals from coming in! Except when they're coming from such a politically shitty place that the government calls them refugees. Then that's totally different.

Right-wing hypocrisy checks out.

But only if they're brown refugees. Black refugees, get 'em outta here!

 

[TimmyPage]

Also

So, poking around Google, the closest match to Glades' story is Guatemala - gun control was implemented in 1964, and in the late 70s and early 80s it's now generally accepted that the government's actions against the Mayans constitute genocide, after the government decided Mayan peasants were siding with rebels in a bloody civil war. Estimates run around 40,000-60,000 were killed.

Also, another fun fact about Guatemala: the US trained, backed and assisted in staging the coup that overthrew the government, then continued to back a genocidal government for 20 years to protect, of all things, fruit profits (United Fruit Company. Their wikipedia page is a wild ride. This single company has done so much damage in South America)

Assuming it is Guatemala, the poor guy is now praising the country that did this to him.

 

[Drew]

Also

Also, another fun fact about Guatemala: the US trained, backed and assisted in staging the coup that overthrew the government, then continued to back a genocidal government for 20 years to protect, of all things, fruit profits (United Fruit Company. Their wikipedia page is a wild ride. This single company has done so much damage in South America)

Assuming it is Guatemala, the poor guy is now praising the country that did this to him.

The fact he's gotten AWFULLY quiet in this thread makes me think it is.

 

[zappatton2]

An awful lot of stories this past couple of weeks about well-armed Americans preemptively neutralizing some pretty deadly threats, from lost people using the wrong driveway, to folks mistakenly knocking on the wrong door, all the way up to the terror of playing children.

All of this bravery is really a testament to the importance of ensuring rugged individuals have unregulated access to lethal weapons to secure the sanctity of their private property from all this undue tyranny. Thoughts and prayers, folks. Thoughts and prayers.