Can I use Toontrack MIDI packs with GGD Kits?

[Deadpool_25]

Juuuust getting started with Logic. I have a couple GGD kits. OKW Modern Fusion, Modern & Massive, and P4. I also have a few of their MIDI packs.

Can I use a toontrack midi pack with the GGD kits? Easy? Doable but pain in the ass? Can't be done?

 

[ShredmasterD]

Juuuust getting started with Logic. I have a couple GGD kits. OKW Modern Fusion, Modern & Massive, and P4. I also have a few of their MIDI packs.

Can I use a toontrack midi pack with the GGD kits? Easy? Doable but pain in the ass? Can't be done?

i think midi is midi but there may be proprietary code for ez drummer or superior drummer specific to their product and likewise with GGD for layers and such in the samples. maybe ask a sales guy at sweetwater about it before spending the money. I think they sell both products

 

[RevDrucifer]

This is a big reason I quit using GGD, aside from the fact I could never get the multi-outs to work properly. Any MIDI I loaded from EZD/SD3 into it needed to be re-mapped.

They have some different mappings as presets but even using the Standard or Global or whatever they call the one that *should* work across multiple platforms, I had to map everything out. Differences in the kits can cause that, but my MIDI’s were so far off I was spending forever mapping them.

Really, the only thing I found redeemable with GGD was that they have a snare with the strainer off, which I LOVE as a huge Portnoy/Carey fan. The non-EQ’d toms were a real headscratcher for me, though. Seems kind of daft to EQ the shit out of the kick/snare but leave the toms alone.

I haven’t tried EZD3 yet, but I use SD3 all the time and it smokes everything else I’ve used (EZD2, Slate, GGD).

 

[cwhitey2]

^This. The mapping will be an issue.

 

[Winspear]

Even as far as a full remapping potentially being necessary goes, it's worth mentioning that you can click the key on the left of the DAW midi editor to select every note of that type, and then drag them all at once to the correct key. So even with say 20 pieces to remap, it's just 20 click and drags

 

[Deadpool_25]

Thanks guys. The mapping is what I thought might be an issue. I'd think you could map it once, save that as a map template, and recall it if using a midi pack from another manufacturer?

I haven't really looked into SD or EZD much at all tbh. I've just had GGD for quite a while and figured I'd start using it a little.

I will check out SD3.

 

[Deadpool_25]

This is a big reason I quit using GGD, aside from the fact I could never get the multi-outs to work properly. Any MIDI I loaded from EZD/SD3 into it needed to be re-mapped.

They have some different mappings as presets but even using the Standard or Global or whatever they call the one that *should* work across multiple platforms, I had to map everything out. Differences in the kits can cause that, but my MIDI’s were so far off I was spending forever mapping them.

Really, the only thing I found redeemable with GGD was that they have a snare with the strainer off, which I LOVE as a huge Portnoy/Carey fan. The non-EQ’d toms were a real headscratcher for me, though. Seems kind of daft to EQ the shit out of the kick/snare but leave the toms alone.

I haven’t tried EZD3 yet, but I use SD3 all the time and it smokes everything else I’ve used (EZD2, Slate, GGD).

Which GGD kit is that snare in? I'm also a big Carey/Tool fan.

 

[RevDrucifer]

Which GGD kit is that snare in? I'm also a big Carey/Tool fan.

Uhhhh, I know I had the P4 kit, I can’t remember if that was a pack or just a preset within the pack. It had the Reptile kit on it as well.

 

[tedtan]

Thanks guys. The mapping is what I thought might be an issue. I'd think you could map it once, save that as a map template, and recall it if using a midi pack from another manufacturer?

I haven't really looked into SD or EZD much at all tbh. I've just had GGD for quite a while and figured I'd start using it a little.

I will check out SD3.

Yes, just do it once and then save the map so you don’t have to do it each time.

 

[stringsmatter]

I have never tried it but it might work

 

[afterzaar]

You can find awesome drum maps in the description of this video.
Edit: I don't know why but video can't be seen. You can find video "GGD to EZ2: mapping completo para leer baterías de EZ y GUITAR PRO en Get Good Drums" like this.

https://www.youtube.com/c/GFFmusic

 

[MUTANTOID]

I discovered this recently as someone I was collabing with had GGD midi and wanted Superior Drummer multitracks. I tried to find any easy way to decipher the GGD midi mapping, but their support tab on the website redirects to a Facebook group. LMAO.

 

[Kymatik]

It works but Toontrack has way more articulations. GGD just uses a different mapping, I found one for Invasion that works out of the box on google somewhere and then manually applied the same map to the other packs.
I attached a Screenshot, you could just copy that.
EDIT: Be aware the notes start in the minus range.

 

[jvms]

If you have access to the MIDI files, you can deffinitely drop them in a GGD track for sure, but you will have to remap the library or the MIDI. Keep in mind that even after remapping, both libraries have very different dynamic ranges and articulations, so the MIDI might not sound so good out of the box, and you might have to adjust velocities to make it sound good. That may defeat the purpose of using MIDI packs, as they are made for easing up a producer's life, but it sounds like in this situation, you will have a good amount of trouble to make it sound good.

 

[crushingpetal]

I bought some GGD MIDI and tried to remap to EZD2. It didn't really work well. Not sure if I should spend more time with it.