Celestion G12H-75 Creamback vs Vintage 30

[icipher]

I am considering a new 2x12 for my KSR Orthos II. I play in a live metal band, tuned down to C and A#.

I've always been a big vintage 30 guy. I love the cut and texture of the mids and highs. The aggression has always helped in a band situation I've thought.

I am interested in trying something new, and have heard good things about the G12H-75 Creamback. I am curious to know if anyone here has any experience with them and thinks they would be midrangey and sharp enough to work well in a live situation with two distorted guitars. I am apprehensive about any speaker that would sound muffled or "blanketed" at all.

Any advice? Should I just stick to the vintage 30?

 

[Phantom]

Those KSR amps are awesome, I really want one. How much did you pay for yours?

Here is a video where Fluff plays both the 65 and 75, maybe it could help.
https://youtu.be/3DaxjqDBzUc?list=PL039E261E5D4370D9

Here is an faq that he did where he talks about the V30 vs the Creamback (about 3:04)
https://youtu.be/EYEs6-7DZU8?list=PL3gffKm0tqiI8gK3mU2jUIifeWYKMRXFf

I was pretty sure there is another video where he talks more on the subject of the two speakers but I couldn't find it.

Either way, I have been playing the V30 for more than a decade and I really love that speaker, but I recently have been using the K100. I built myself a 1x12 and 2x12, both loaded with K100's and they sound killer with my Mark V. I have been wanting to try mixing the two speakers, which leads me to my next question... Why not both? Do a V30 and G12H mix. If you don't like the mix, sell the one you don't like and by the other.

 

[icipher]

Those KSR amps are awesome, I really want one. How much did you pay for yours?

Here is a video where Fluff plays both the 65 and 75, maybe it could help.
https://youtu.be/3DaxjqDBzUc?list=PL039E261E5D4370D9

Here is an faq that he did where he talks about the V30 vs the Creamback (about 3:04)
https://youtu.be/EYEs6-7DZU8?list=PL3gffKm0tqiI8gK3mU2jUIifeWYKMRXFf

I was pretty sure there is another video where he talks more on the subject of the two speakers but I couldn't find it.

Either way, I have been playing the V30 for more than a decade and I really love that speaker, but I recently have been using the K100. I built myself a 1x12 and 2x12, both loaded with K100's and they sound killer with my Mark V. I have been wanting to try mixing the two speakers, which leads me to my next question... Why not both? Do a V30 and G12H mix. If you don't like the mix, sell the one you don't like and by the other.

Thanks man! I am tempted to try the creambacks as I already have Vintage 30 cabs.

As for the Orthos, I believe I paid $2,200 or so.

 

[Nitrobattery]

I'm interested to hear what you think if you grab them. I've been a V30 guy for 15 or 16 years, but lately have been on a huge Greenback kick, and every time I plug back into my V30 loaded Mesa 4x12 I find myself immediately plugging the Greenback cab back in. The 75 watt Creamback seems like the perfect marriage of the two. The bottom end tightness and top end sparkle of a V30, with the mids and smoothness of a Greenback.

 

[Phantom]

No problem man

As for the Orthos, I believe I paid $2,200 or so.

That's awesome. I've got serious GAS for one of the KSR's. Even more so with all the options available.

I'm interested to hear what you think if you grab them.

I second this. Get'em and do a comparison and blend video or sound clip!

 

[icipher]

No problem man


That's awesome. I've got serious GAS for one of the KSR's. Even more so with all the options available.


I second this. Get'em and do a comparison and blend video or sound clip!

The Orthos is awesome. Best high gain channel I've owned, and I've owned a LOT of nice amps. At this price point, I'd happily pay more for the KSR over a 5153 etc.

 

[protest]

I'll let you know when I get my cab and Colossus back from Kyle. Just an FYI Kyle describes the A-Type and V-Type mix as sounding somewhat similar to a Mesa V30, so you might like that combo.

 

[iron blast]

Why not xpatern or in your case one of each?

 

[cult]

Why not both?
They really compliment each other greatly!

 

[katsumura78]

I have a Port City 2x12 with both speakers and it sounds killer with my Orthos. You can't go wrong.