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What???Mixbus is easier to understand and use than Reaper by a million light-years
What???Mixbus is easier to understand and use than Reaper by a million light-years
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Free updates for life is a great value proposition as wellI don't know if I'm in the minority. But I'm throwing FL Studio here. I do alot of midi work and I haven't found a piano roll that can hold a candle to FL. While its mostly known for EDM and Hip-Hop and the abysmal handling of audio clips and automation is lightyears behind its competitors, the thing just works. The piano roll just works, most of the stock plugins and effects are just amazing (IL Harmor and Fruity Reverb 2) and especially with the newest version, FL 21, it rarely crashes as it used to be back then.
Still, while other DAWs can do other things a tad bit better or the same, in my DAW searching journey, I've never saw a DAW that can touch FL's Piano roll. Left click draws a note, right click erases the note and click and drag the edge of the note to shorten and lengthen the note. No shortcuts, no nothing.
What version of Mixbus are you using? Are you programming lots of MIDI? I remember in 5 32C it was so far behind any modern DAW I'd ever seen... Like REAPER at least you can drag and drop lots of stuff, there was piano roll, drum editor..All I'll say is moving from the Mac environment where Logic was king, and worked really well for me, Mixbus is easier to understand and use than Reaper by a million light-years no matter how many tutorials may exist.
Granted, I'm a weirdo and tend to like things most don't.
Only thing with FL Studio is I don't know of a single metal engineer who uses it. Even a lot of EDM and Hip Hop guys I know have moved to Ableton (which I wouldn't recommend for recording rock/metal stuff, but for the more electronic genres nothing comes close to the functionality in my experience).I don't know if I'm in the minority. But I'm throwing FL Studio here. I do alot of midi work and I haven't found a piano roll that can hold a candle to FL. While its mostly known for EDM and Hip-Hop and the abysmal handling of audio clips and automation is lightyears behind its competitors, the thing just works. The piano roll just works, most of the stock plugins and effects are just amazing (IL Harmor and Fruity Reverb 2) and especially with the newest version, FL 21, it rarely crashes as it used to be back then.
Still, while other DAWs can do other things a tad bit better or the same, in my DAW searching journey, I've never saw a DAW that can touch FL's Piano roll. Left click draws a note, right click erases the note and click and drag the edge of the note to shorten and lengthen the note. No shortcuts, no nothing.
There's stuff I like and stuff I hate from each DAW I've tried. I miss some of the editing things and built in synth instruments from Reason when using Logic, but I love Logics workflow in terms of making tracks and busses for mixing. Also, Logic has a lot of good standard plugins for mixing and mastering, which I think some of the others lacked (or halfway did automatically for you).
I tried a demo of Studio One on my dads computer once and decided then and there that it wasn't the DAW for me.
I hated it
I know I'm reaching here but Mick Gordon is a well-known user.Only thing with FL Studio is I don't know of a single metal engineer who uses it. Even a lot of EDM and Hip Hop guys I know have moved to Ableton (which I wouldn't recommend for recording rock/metal stuff, but for the more electronic genres nothing comes close to the functionality in my experience).
In the end it's all about personal preference. I've stuck with what gave me the best user experienced based on my type of workflow. What works for me doesn't necessarily work for anyone else. One of my close friends loves and uses Studio One, and then there's my brother who have been using Ableton Live for a good while now. Never got to try Ableton even though my Focusrite Scarlett came with a demo of it.Ironically, I found Logic to have the best workflow and stock features of any DAW but my MAC crapped the bed and I swore off buying another one. When I went back to Windows, I ended up liking Studio One the best of what's available.
EDIT: Correction, I like pre-facelift Cubase the most but Studio One gets the nod for new releases.
But he didn't use FL Studio for Doom, I thought I saw in the videos he made he was using Ableton.I know I'm reaching here but Mick Gordon is a well-known user.
I couldn't get a damned thing done in Reaper aside from arming tracks and recording. MIDI was a shit-show of impossible, and I finally gave up completely when I stumbled over something usable.What???
I'm on version 9 of 32c right now, but have traveled through seven, and eight.What version of Mixbus are you using? Are you programming lots of MIDI? I remember in 5 32C it was so far behind any modern DAW I'd ever seen... Like REAPER at least you can drag and drop lots of stuff, there was piano roll, drum editor..
It's not as fast and comfy as Cubase or Studio One but still way ahead of Mixbus v5 in terms of comfort...IMO. Mixbus was a modern software that felt ancient for me.
The only cool thing in Mixbus is that it was emulating the 32c console and some of the included plugins. But even then, it you have modern Cubase you also have the mixing board view with the channel strips, it's really cool especially with dual monitors. So the real question is...Is the sound character of Mixbus worth the discomfort of using it? In my opinion no.
I'm the same, I couldn't get anything done in Reaper.I couldn't get a damned thing done in Reaper aside from arming tracks and recording. MIDI was a shit-show of impossible, and I finally gave up completely when I stumbled over something usable.
I'm on version 9 of 32c right now, but have traveled through seven, and eight.
I feel like Mixbus is kinda like Linux (which I've used Mixbus on for a few years). Some folks tried it when it was still a shit-show, and that reputation stays with it.
On the other hand, you say the software feels ancient to you, and I'm pretty ancient myself. So maybe it's just a meeting of like-objects in the digital realm for me.
I got into Linux in the nineties. It's more comfortable to me than Windows for most uses, though I do keep Windows around for certain programs. I'm used to being lectured for being a backwards idiot because of it.Ohhh, well maybe it's gotten better? I remember I got pissed about it because Mixbus as weird as it was, and on top of that they were charging like 80-90€ for a yearly upgrade. It's on version 9,5 now right? It's been a while since the last release right? They teamed up with SSL if I remember correctly, who knows what will happen?
I use Linux a lot just for IT studying reasons, configuring servers and services, machine administration, and using the terminal for basically everything. The basic Server install doesn't even have a GUI or a desktop, it's just a terminal. So I know Linux, I just don't understand why anyone would want it to use at home? Or the new rising trend, which is Linux gaming? Why do they want to make their life harder on purpose??
I can second this. I got my start in the early 00's on FL Studio. Transitioning to Logic was difficult. For composing piano and drums, FL Studio was always the most intuitive even after learning how to accomplish the same in Logic. When inspiration strikes, you don't want to be fighting against your DAW.I don't know if I'm in the minority. But I'm throwing FL Studio here. I do alot of midi work and I haven't found a piano roll that can hold a candle to FL. While its mostly known for EDM and Hip-Hop and the abysmal handling of audio clips and automation is lightyears behind its competitors, the thing just works. The piano roll just works, most of the stock plugins and effects are just amazing (IL Harmor and Fruity Reverb 2) and especially with the newest version, FL 21, it rarely crashes as it used to be back then.
Still, while other DAWs can do other things a tad bit better or the same, in my DAW searching journey, I've never saw a DAW that can touch FL's Piano roll. Left click draws a note, right click erases the note and click and drag the edge of the note to shorten and lengthen the note. No shortcuts, no nothing.
I think MIDI is one of the things where maybe you start to see bigger differences between DAWs. I don't think Reaper is particularly bad for MIDI, but there are definitely FAR more MIDI-friendly options out there. And, it's worth noting that I both don't do much with MIDI besides drum programming, and first tarted using MIDI in Reaper. 95%+ of my work is in .wav audio.I couldn't get a damned thing done in Reaper aside from arming tracks and recording. MIDI was a shit-show of impossible, and I finally gave up completely when I stumbled over something usable.
WAY back in the day, late 90s and very early 00s, I'd use FL Studio to create percussion loops, often by loading outside samples, and then import them into... Sonic Foundry ACID for actual tracking. With my laptop of the day, and the fact that ACID was really more focused on loop-based audio, I tended to create a lot of loops for rhythm parts and whatnot and then record leads in 30 second snippets because that's about the most my laptop would be stable with.I can second this. I got my start in the early 00's on FL Studio. Transitioning to Logic was difficult. For composing piano and drums, FL Studio was always the most intuitive even after learning how to accomplish the same in Logic. When inspiration strikes, you don't want to be fighting against your DAW.