Dream Theater

[Lukhas]

It always puzzles me why prog metalheads seem to immediately critique and comment about the mix rather than the actual song.

Because no one or at least, very few doubt that Dream Theater will release a solid song for the first single of their newest record, no matter anyone's opinion of the contents of the eventual album.

 

[Genome]

Because no one or at least, very few doubt that Dream Theater will release a solid song for the first single of their newest record, no matter anyone's opinion of the contents of the eventual album.

I'm not complaining as such. I just find it a little funny (hell, I've probably been guilty of it in the past).

I can understand it when there's obvious production problems that are affecting the impact of the song, but a lot of it is very nitpicky. It must be frustrating for the band, to work in the studio for a few months writing music that they're proud of, only for the YouTube comments to be full of people arguing whether there's enough 3.2k in the guitars

 

[Lukhas]

In which JP, James and Jordan discuss Untethered Angel.

I'm not complaining as such. I just find it a little funny (hell, I've probably been guilty of it in the past).

I can understand it when there's obvious production problems that are affecting the impact of the song, but a lot of it is very nitpicky. It must be frustrating for the band, to work in the studio for a few months writing music that they're proud of, only for the YouTube comments to be full of people arguing whether there's enough 3.2k in the guitars

I'd dare to think that they're used to it. Dream Theater, by its progressive and shredtastic nature always attract a lot of different opinions, very critical (as in "accurate", "precise", not necessarily "negative") ones as well. Sometimes the most technically and compositionally complicated music will be labelled as "music for musicians", as mostly "trained ears" will appreciate the finer details of the music; in a sense you get used to music, in general. As such, you're going to hear critics from other musicians if they're the ones who listen to your work. I think it was Misha Mansoor who, at a Q&A before a show, asked the audience to raise their hands if they played an instrument... and I think he said it was grossly 9 out of 10 members of the audience.

That said, my mom thought that The Astonishing was amazing... even though Images and Words is still her favourite album of theirs. She doesn't play an instrument nor has musical training; she doesn't even like Metal.

 

[Zalbu]

I'm really liking the song itself, and Petrucci is flawless in both playing and writing as always, but man, LaBrie is sounding whinier and whinier with every album. Dream Theater could be on a completely new level with a better singer, but I doubt the band is going to kick LaBrie and he's only going to leave voluntarily.

 

[groverj3]

Hell, if anyone brings up AJFA at any point in any discussion, you can bet that on the same page someone will comment about the bass. On a record that is friggin 30 years old at this point.

Except every single instrument on AJFA sounds like complete garbage, not just the bass

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

It always puzzles me why prog metalheads seem to immediately critique and comment about the mix rather than the actual song.

Does this happen in other genres? Do you get Skrillex fans debating whether his bass wubs enough in the 100hz region?

I'm pretty sure you'll have a bigger ratio of prog metal fans that are musicians, engineers, and producers than you will dubstep fans.

Also this forum is a huge group of musicians, so yeah.

Except every single instrument on AJFA sounds like complete garbage, not just the bass

Sucks because judging by the separate stems you can find online, the bass in AJFA sounds monstrous.

 

[A-Branger]

Except every single instrument on AJFA sounds like complete garbage, not just the bass

fucking acronymous.... what album is that again?. Even as a long time fan I cant figure it out all the album names by stupid acronymous... Is it that hard to write a name these days?

I have the spotify page open... theres no album with that... So are we talking about a song?.... f me, I know a lot of their songs by name, but cant for the love of anything remember or figure it out what some that letters belong to

 

[Kaura]

fucking acronymous.... what album is that again?. Even as a long time fan I cant figure it out all the album names by stupid acronymous... Is it that hard to write a name these days?

I have the spotify page open... theres no album with that... So are we talking about a song?.... f me, I know a lot of their songs by name, but cant for the love of anything remember or figure it out what some that letters belong to

They're referring to Metallica's album "And Justice For All".

 

[A-Branger]

They're referring to Metallica's album "And Justice For All".

fuck me

 

[thedonal]

Jesus. I'm not watching a video of Dream Theater talking about each track of the new album we haven't heard.

They are trying too hard on the teasing buildup. We never used to need this*. That sort of shit is for the bonus disc of the album so we can look at it afterwards.

What has this world come to?**

*Edit- we don't need it now!

**answers on a postcard please to the above address

 

[Exchanger]

I can understand it when there's obvious production problems that are affecting the impact of the song, but a lot of it is very nitpicky. It must be frustrating for the band, to work in the studio for a few months writing music that they're proud of, only for the YouTube comments to be full of people arguing whether there's enough 3.2k in the guitars

It's for one because the standard has been set very high, by past albums, and secondly by other bands who don't even have a 10th of DT's budget. And in this case, I do think it ruins the song a bit.

 

[Evan89]

Had a request on my last video to do this song:

 

[groverj3]

In watching the playthrough video for the new song I'm struck by how damn clean 'Trucch's picking technique looks. This is in stark contrast to how he's looked a little less disciplined live over the past 5 or so years. Not that he isn't playing well most of the time, but there's a noticeable difference in arm motion that he's been using live vs the very strict picking he's showcasing here.

Seems like the guy really does still dial that wrist motion in for the studio sessions and is still at the top of his game when he wants to put in the time.

 

[Evan89]

Another transcription request:

 

[Sephiroth952]

Been giving the new song some time to sink in. I wasn't too hyped on the first listen, but tbh now it gets me pretty pumped. Definitely a grower, very ToT-esque.

 

[A-Branger]

Been giving the new song some time to sink in. I wasn't too hyped on the first listen, but tbh now it gets me pretty pumped. Definitely a grower, very ToT-esque.

feel the same way. Now I love the song

 

[lurè]

Nothing new? I don't care. Metallica riffing ftw

 

[Jamey36]

Really giving me high hopes for the album!Especially "Fall into the Light"!

 

[Exchanger]

I like this one too. The chorus has some interesting harmonies and vocal lines, which I often missed in self-titled and ADToE

 

[Sephiroth952]

Sounds like someone brought a Rainbow CD to the studio with em.

Solid track though.