ESP 2024

[Nightside]

These somehow look cool. What's funny is that if these were Schecs I'd hate them with passion for some reason.

Ick. I wonder how much they're charging for slapping a burl veneer on a $180 M10?

 

[nightsprinter]

Ick. I wonder how much they're charging for slapping a burl veneer on a $180 M10?

It could be yours for $399 + any additional taxes and shipping fees. Woof.

 

[cardinal]

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I just went to ESP's site to take a look at some LTD models and just noticed the whole LTD Horizon section is no longer there. Unless, I'm blind or something, I can't seem to find it.

Products - LTD Guitars - The ESP Guitar Company

One of the world's leading manufacturers of high quality guitars and basses.

www.espguitars.com

If they bring back the LTD H with a real horizon inline headstock, I'm down. Otherwise, LTD is no longer making the H series?

EDIT: Arctic, F, and XTone are all gone from the LTD page. Here is a web archive from April for reference.

I don't think they have made LTD Horizons for some time? They have the MH, H3, and just added the '87 Horizons. I don't think they want to spend the time carving a Horizon top, so largely just don't.

 

[Albake21]

Please, oh please stop using that horrendous "flag" headstock or whatever the fuck they call it. Short of random hack "luthiers" making their own guitars, I legitimately think that the 3x3, 3x4 etc. headstock they've been using on the H models is the worst headstock shape ever.

Waiting for someone to quote this with something way worse, but I'm just going to bury my head in the sand and die on this hill I've made for myself.

I completely agree, that 3+3 always looked terrible on the horizon body. With that said, I do think it looks really good on the F series, other than that, it doesn't work on anything, IMO.

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I don't think they have made LTD Horizons for some time? They have the MH, H3, and just added the '87 Horizons. I don't think they want to spend the time carving a Horizon top, so largely just don't.

I'm not sure if they made any for 2023/2024, but the last model I know of was in 2022, the purple evertuned LTD H and they also made a Violet Andromeda F series LTD that same year.

It would make sense from a cost savings stand point to remove the full carved LTD Horizon. Only reason I'm bummed is less thin U vs ultra thin u in the LTD line.

 

[Moongrum]

I'm 32, and when I first started getting into metal/metalcore, a lot of bands played LTDs, like this one:

I think there was a black or white one with EMGs, too. The other ones in heavy rotation were ECs in either black cherry or the flatblack with gold hardware (they still make that one today, I think).
So I'm actually partial to this 3x3 headstock, just because that's what I remember ESP should not listen to me, though, because I won't be buying either way loll.

 

[Chri]

I'm 32, and when I first started getting into metal/metalcore, a lot of bands played LTDs, like this one:
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I think there was a black or white one with EMGs, too. The other ones in heavy rotation were ECs in either black cherry or the flatblack with gold hardware (they still make that one today, I think).
So I'm actually partial to this 3x3 headstock, just because that's what I remember ESP should not listen to me, though, because I won't be buying either way loll.

No, those are all good.

We’re discussing this abomination

 

[Moongrum]

No, those are all good.

We’re discussing this abomination

Ooooh! gotcha, sorry, everyone, I'm like a little kid walking into the middle of a movie asking what it's about

 

[Nightside]

No, those are all good.

We’re discussing this abomination

No there is another one that is just as or more disgusting.

 

[Albake21]

I'm 32, and when I first started getting into metal/metalcore, a lot of bands played LTDs, like this one:
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I think there was a black or white one with EMGs, too. The other ones in heavy rotation were ECs in either black cherry or the flatblack with gold hardware (they still make that one today, I think).
So I'm actually partial to this 3x3 headstock, just because that's what I remember ESP should not listen to me, though, because I won't be buying either way loll.

I love me a cock stock.

 

[Nightside]

Finding a picture is a pain in the ass but this short lived monstrosity was used between the dog penis and the F headstock. It's basically an eclipse 3x3 with a narrowed top.

 

[Lozek]

No, those are all good.

We’re discussing this abomination

Doesn't work on sixes, works slightly better on sevens, works best on my seven because I sawed the end off, plugged the far Machine Head holes on the 3 side and moved them back inline with the 4 side.

 

[nightsprinter]

This was mine for a couple years. I liked the headstock on this model only. Looked good in blue. I sold this a year or two ago, I kinda regret it. One of the few gear selling regrets I have. This headstock looks slightly different than the flags I'm seeing here though.

 

[nightsprinter]

Also had this for a spell. A total dog. 26.5" scale. Couldn't sell it quick enough.

 

[PuckishGuitar]

I love me a cock stock.

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I keep saying that I don’t like the cock stock, but then I see a Horizon or H3 like this with the big DGAF block logo instead of the script at the very tip, and it just works.

 

[Akartacs]

Ick. I wonder how much they're charging for slapping a burl veneer on a $180 M10?

I don't get the hate for these (apart from the burl top which I'm not a fan of either):

• They are made of poplar - so are a lot of Jacksons (even some of their signature guitars), and other low to mid priced guitars

• Roasted maple neck with rosewood fingerboard

• The stock pickups are decent - at least not considered garbage when reading about them in other LTD guitars

I might be partial though, I'm looking for a fixed-bridge 6-string guitar and this one just checks almost all of the boxes. I might go with an RG421, though.

 

[Nightside]

I don't get the hate for these (apart from the burl top which I'm not a fan of either):

• They are made of poplar - so are a lot of Jacksons (even some of their signature guitars), and other low to mid priced guitars

• Roasted maple neck with rosewood fingerboard

• The stock pickups are decent - at least not considered garbage when reading about them in other LTD guitars

I might be partial though, I'm looking for a fixed-bridge 6-string guitar and this one just checks almost all of the boxes. I might go with an RG421, though.

What pickups are in it? I didn't know about the roasted neck. I thought it was just the M10 with a burl veneer and pickup covers.

I don't mind poplar at all. Or basswood.

 

[Akartacs]

What pickups are in it? I didn't know about the roasted neck. I thought it was just the M10 with a burl veneer and pickup covers.

I don't mind poplar at all. Or basswood.

LH-150s. Sure, not big brand name pickups.
But easy to replace if needed.

And the reverse headstock is cool too, I think.

 

[StevenC]

Finding a picture is a pain in the ass but this short lived monstrosity was used between the dog penis and the F headstock. It's basically an eclipse 3x3 with a narrowed top.View attachment 145834View attachment 145835

Wow, that's somehow even worse than the F headstock