Is Helter Skelter one of the first metal songs? Or punk?

[Fenriswolf]

My wife and I have been arguing over this. She's a Beatles fan, and I do agree that for the time it was pretty hard, it's the first punk song. I mean they're yelling over loud ass amps, hitting the stings so hard the low E is going out of tune, and "I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON ME FINGERS"

I mean personally, it reminds me more of this


than any of the other first "metal" songs..






So what do y'all think? Is Helter Skelter the first punk or metal song?

 

[Thesius]

Why not both

 

[KnightBrolaire]

no. The Stooges/Velvet Underground/MC5/New York Dolls/Ramones/Blondie/Patti Smith/Devo\Talking Heads are widely credited as being some of the first punk bands. Punk really wasn't a thing til the 1970s.

 

[Fenriswolf]

Why not both

Because after showing my wife Black Flag, I'm on the verge of winning an argument.

 

[BenjaminW]

I've always heard it as more of the first metal song than the first punk song.

 

[Dayn]

Because after showing my wife Black Flag, I'm on the verge of winning an argument.

Famous last words. You will be remembered.

 

[Choop]

Ha it sure is a heavier song relative to other Beatles songs. I dunno if it quite has the right attitude or energy for early punk; it kind of feels more like a harder rock or very early "metal" but that's just IMO. I mean it definitely could have inspired some early punk.

 

[Carrion Rocket]

Because after showing my wife Black Flag, I'm on the verge of winning an argument.

Famous last words. You will be remembered.

 

[Seabeast2000]

super proto archaeo-metal- Link Wray's "Rumble".

 

[sonoftheoldnorth]

I've always thought there was a lot going on in Crazy Horses that you can now recognize in heavier rock and metal that came after it. The riff is heavy as shit ha, the gritty 'growl' vocals, the obvious horse part that's like whammy bar abuse and there's even an awesome scream in the bit before the solo. What a tune ha.

 

[beerandbeards]

 

[Crungy]

I've always thought there was a lot going on in Crazy Horses that you can now recognize in heavier rock and metal that came after it. The riff is heavy as shit ha, the gritty 'growl' vocals, the obvious horse part that's like whammy bar abuse and there's even an awesome scream in the bit before the solo. What a tune ha.

Holy shit that fucking goes! I didn't know the Osmonds did anything like that, wtf!

 

[Ralyks]

Metal

 

[ArtDecade]

It is a stretch to call it the first metal or punk song - although it probably influenced the real deals.

The first metal song was Pour Some Sugar On Me and the first punk song was All The Small Things.

 

[nightflameauto]

I've always thought there was a lot going on in Crazy Horses that you can now recognize in heavier rock and metal that came after it. The riff is heavy as shit ha, the gritty 'growl' vocals, the obvious horse part that's like whammy bar abuse and there's even an awesome scream in the bit before the solo. What a tune ha.

There's a real gallop in that riff. Holy hell.

I kinda wanna do a cover of it now. Wonder what that would sound like with a tubescreamer boosted 5150 type tone?

 

[Crungy]

There only one way to find out!

 

[Fenriswolf]

Famous last words. You will be remembered.

In her words..."All the examples you showed sounded a lot more metal, and Helter Skelter sounded like the punk songs you showed me. And you play guitar, so you know more about music....I guess I'll take your word for it." I just won