Screamingdaisy
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The argument about drummers sharing gear and a technical drummer not being able to play on some random kit made me thing of this performance...
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"Sound guys" who don't wanna do the job because they're having to, uh, actually do the job should be launched into the sun.The one band I've seen insist on using their own drum kit was given a terrible sounding mix.
The argument about drummers sharing gear and a technical drummer not being able to play on some random kit made me thing of this performance...
I'll never forget a guy I know telling me, after our hour-long set, "sorry I missed your set, I was outside smoking a cigarette."What really annoys me these days are bands that don`t stay around to check out the other bands. Arrive just in time to chug half a beer and do your set, load your stuff and leave while shouting `goodluck` to the band that`s just about to start their set. Way to not get invited to play again if you ask me. At least I won`t, even if you`re really good.
Depends on the scene obviously, playing with hardcore bands this never happened, every band was there to check every other band. Could be a long night, but defintely made new friends and landed more gigs because of this.
Is tip culture in Canada similar to the US?I've noticed a trend lately of promoters sort of reminding people to do the nice things of sticking around and tipping the bar, etc. Especially when there's drink tickets and low turnout.
It's very similar, as far as I'm aware. But we also don't have quite the same structure for minimum wages, etc.Is tip culture in Canada similar to the US?
I agree, but the reality is the soundman still has a job and that band won't be hired back."Sound guys" who don't wanna do the job because they're having to, uh, actually do the job should be launched into the sun.
If you play enough shows, 1 out of 10 sound guys being non-rad is still a significant number of non-rad sound guys.
He’s probably the only one getting paid at most diy shows. His job is to make the band sound as good as possible in the room, not dictate the gear on stage. I worked about 40 shows last summer, probably another 15 or so so far this year, and the only thing that’s ever been a problem is when someone with a 140dB tube amp won’t shut the fuck up. Drum changeovers were rarely an issue unless it was some guy with like 16 pcs of auxiliary percussion.I agree, but the reality is the soundman still has a job and that band won't be hired back.
Whether that's right or fair is irrelevant.
Agreed, for the most part. Even the ones that are dicks are usually cool if you don’t come at them sideways and communicate your needs before you’re on stage. But, that’s why it’s good to know who is actually in charge of the show because they likely don’t want to hire FOH that is pissing off the bands with silly shit like complaining about reclamping a few shell mics or making a band sound bad on purpose because they had to do very basic everyday sound guy stuff.Speaking of sound guys, listen to your sound man and be cool to him
I see such an inordinate amount of bitching about sound guys on forums, but my real world experience is that they're pretty rad 9 times out of 10. If I hear a story about guitarist vs. sound guy, I'm going to automatically be leaning towards the sound guy's side right off the bat
as a guitarist, I will always assume the guitarist is the asshole. I've played in very loud bands at very loud shows for years and most of the issues that people show up complaining about can be solved by buying the sound tech a beer or two and having a friendly conversation in the spirit of realistic expectations and a willingness to compromise. something along the lines of "we like to play really loud, what can we do to make that happen and also not be a pain in your ass?" nothing works every time, but I've had overall very positive results with this approach.Speaking of sound guys, listen to your sound man and be cool to him
I see such an inordinate amount of bitching about sound guys on forums, but my real world experience is that they're pretty rad 9 times out of 10. If I hear a story about guitarist vs. sound guy, I'm going to automatically be leaning towards the sound guy's side right off the bat
it me..... but I discovered this one simple trick where I just play solo and tell the sound guy it's up to them if they even want to mic my wall. the main guy working around here loves me.someone with a 140dB tube amp won’t shut the fuck up