Hey there, as a 90s metal tone nostalgic and long time Death super fan, I'm used to an ongoing GAS for the above mentioned valvestate 8100, always fading and coming back from year to year since forever. Which leads me to the compulsive search for one every time it strikes.
Internet pic for reference.
I know the series quite a bit from extensive research, demo clips and album tones (you know, it's what GAS does to you), but never heard one in person. A friend of mine has a VS AVT 2000, which everyone deems obscene but I think it can get pretty decent if dialed in with some common sense, at least I did it for him and it was not bad. Since everyone says the 8000 series is miles better, I can only expect better. Of course I won't be comparing it with something else entirely, as tube purists would do. I know what to expect overall, it's still what it is.
Now to the story. Just randomly, while hanging out with a musical friend, I found an used 8100 in a pawn shop near me. It goes for 150 euros head only, or I think 400 euros with a 4x12 1960A cab if I remember correctly. It seems well kept. The head-only price seems below average to me, at least from the few listed 8100s here in Italy. So, the GAS came back full throttle and so did my confusion.
That being said...
This is the situation: I switched to all digital since years, straight Pod plus FRFR so nothing analog is sitting in the house anymore. Also, I don't play live anymore. So since I would need a cab as well, I would basically have to re-construct an analog rig just to enjoy the 8100 (Or would a *cheap* IR loader take the amp in, by the way? That would be a game changer).
The only actual reason why I would hunt one down would be nostalgia (also since my first ever amp was a cheap Marshall), Death fanboyism and some plug-and-play solid state metal action in remembrance of the old times. I don't really *need* it. Because of that, my rational part is fighting with my GAS big time.
On the other hand, the idea to own one has been bugging me since forever and soon the 8000 series will be too rare to be spotted again, in EU at least. Also lots of people say it's one of the best SS amps ever.
That being said, I want you to be my rational counsellors.
On one hand:
1) Would you buy the amp if you were in my shoes, y/n and why? And at that price? Head only and waiting for a cheap cab down the road, or is head plus that Marshall cab a bargain? I forgot all average prices of anything analog since I've been out of that universe. Well I could still resell the 1960A if it proves too much to keep at home. Or again, does a cheap IR loader which takes amps in input exist? That would be great.
2) As for build quality, how's that? Would it be advisable to buy it (of course after having tested it in place), or would I risk repaying it in maintenance over the long term? It is pretty old. It would still serve as a memorabilia in case, but it would suck to see it breaking down.
On the other hand:
3) For owners / past owners, and possibly metal fans. Honestly: how's that, is it actually a good amp for what it is? I do like Marshall, I do like solid state for its character, and I always thought the 8100 could not badly approximate a 5150 for tight, mid-heavy metal tones, which I love.. Well I also know it will probably be better for studio tones than as a live amp.
Guys, I know I'm overthinking it but I really need help in this. I'm asking this as I don't want to get caught by the GAS/hype and squander my money, and then dwell in cognitive dissonance. Cheers to anyone willing to help!
Internet pic for reference.
![marshall-Model-8100-Valvestate-100-watt-head-1990-original.jpg](http://www.vintageandrare.com/uploads/offers/334/686/marshall-Model-8100-Valvestate-100-watt-head-1990-original.jpg)
I know the series quite a bit from extensive research, demo clips and album tones (you know, it's what GAS does to you), but never heard one in person. A friend of mine has a VS AVT 2000, which everyone deems obscene but I think it can get pretty decent if dialed in with some common sense, at least I did it for him and it was not bad. Since everyone says the 8000 series is miles better, I can only expect better. Of course I won't be comparing it with something else entirely, as tube purists would do. I know what to expect overall, it's still what it is.
Now to the story. Just randomly, while hanging out with a musical friend, I found an used 8100 in a pawn shop near me. It goes for 150 euros head only, or I think 400 euros with a 4x12 1960A cab if I remember correctly. It seems well kept. The head-only price seems below average to me, at least from the few listed 8100s here in Italy. So, the GAS came back full throttle and so did my confusion.
That being said...
This is the situation: I switched to all digital since years, straight Pod plus FRFR so nothing analog is sitting in the house anymore. Also, I don't play live anymore. So since I would need a cab as well, I would basically have to re-construct an analog rig just to enjoy the 8100 (Or would a *cheap* IR loader take the amp in, by the way? That would be a game changer).
The only actual reason why I would hunt one down would be nostalgia (also since my first ever amp was a cheap Marshall), Death fanboyism and some plug-and-play solid state metal action in remembrance of the old times. I don't really *need* it. Because of that, my rational part is fighting with my GAS big time.
On the other hand, the idea to own one has been bugging me since forever and soon the 8000 series will be too rare to be spotted again, in EU at least. Also lots of people say it's one of the best SS amps ever.
That being said, I want you to be my rational counsellors.
On one hand:
1) Would you buy the amp if you were in my shoes, y/n and why? And at that price? Head only and waiting for a cheap cab down the road, or is head plus that Marshall cab a bargain? I forgot all average prices of anything analog since I've been out of that universe. Well I could still resell the 1960A if it proves too much to keep at home. Or again, does a cheap IR loader which takes amps in input exist? That would be great.
2) As for build quality, how's that? Would it be advisable to buy it (of course after having tested it in place), or would I risk repaying it in maintenance over the long term? It is pretty old. It would still serve as a memorabilia in case, but it would suck to see it breaking down.
On the other hand:
3) For owners / past owners, and possibly metal fans. Honestly: how's that, is it actually a good amp for what it is? I do like Marshall, I do like solid state for its character, and I always thought the 8100 could not badly approximate a 5150 for tight, mid-heavy metal tones, which I love.. Well I also know it will probably be better for studio tones than as a live amp.
Guys, I know I'm overthinking it but I really need help in this. I'm asking this as I don't want to get caught by the GAS/hype and squander my money, and then dwell in cognitive dissonance. Cheers to anyone willing to help!
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