Mustaine left Dean and went to Gibson/Epiphone/Kramer

[BenjaminW]

Would that be branded as a Kramer?

That guitar in general just strikes me more as a Kramer guitar rather than a Gibson. I don't wanna imagine a Flying V that basically looks like a hybrid between a King V and Rhoads with a Gibson logo slapped on it.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

John Cruz maybe?

Perfect pairing.

That guitar in general just strikes me more as a Kramer guitar rather than a Gibson. I don't wanna imagine a Flying V that basically looks like a hybrid between a King V and Rhoads with a Gibson logo slapped on it.

Also that's totally a Kramer headstock.

And I mean... They've already released a Rhoads with a Gibson/Kramer logo on it.

But yeah, I can't find the original instagram post. He must have deleted it because he was either wrong or Gibson told him to take it down. The post DID exist according to google, though.

 

[Zhysick]

Well, that "Kramer King V" definitely has the Mustaine controls layout... But how many decades have passed since the last USA built Kramer? I don't know...

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Well, that "Kramer King V" definitely has the Mustaine controls layout... But how many decades have passed since the last USA built Kramer? I don't know...

Yeah the layout is what sold me on it possibly being a model for him. Plus the silver body and black headstock.

Also FWIW, Gibson HAS been trying to revive the brand. I can see them setting some room aside in their US shops for some USA Kramers if they're serious about it.

 

[Vyn]

All they seem to have left that I know about are Kerry King (retired) and Michael Amott. Is Eric Peterson from Testament still with dean?

Couple of artists near the end of contracts who have hinted at not resigning them as well.

 

[Zhysick]

Yeah the layout is what sold me on it possibly being a model for him. Plus the silver body and black headstock.

Also FWIW, Gibson HAS been trying to revive the brand. I can see them setting some room aside in their US shops for some USA Kramers if they're serious about it.

But, if this is really Gibson (well, Kramer) this was the perfect opportunity for a reboot of the Y2KV... you know, what brand better than Gibson for the propper Gibson Flying V shape...

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

But, if this is really Gibson (well, Kramer) this was the perfect opportunity for a reboot of the Y2KV... you know, what brand better than Gibson for the propper Gibson Flying V shape...

I mean you gotta start somewhere. I'm actually curious if Gibson knew that Mustaine's contract was up, so they sent him this guitar to see if he'd be willing to try them.

Also FWIW, if they can yank Jerry Cantrell away from his 30-year relationship with G&L, they can probably convince Mustaine.

 

[Zhysick]

I won't buy any of his signature guitars anyway, specially because I cannot afford a Gibson and if I could I would get a Les Paul because I like small guitars BUT I would be really disappointed if he goes to Gibson and doesn't get a "new" Y2KV because that was his best signature ever. That's it

Also, I think it would be easy for Gibson to convince Mustaine:
- Hey Dave, you hate Fender because they got Jackson instead of you. You wanna come so we can piss of Fender together?

 

[Nightside]

But, if this is really Gibson (well, Kramer) this was the perfect opportunity for a reboot of the Y2KV... you know, what brand better than Gibson for the propper Gibson Flying V shape...

Esp, tokai, Greco, just about anyone can make a more proper gibson flying v than gibson.

 

[Zhysick]

Esp, tokai, Greco, just about anyone can make a more proper gibson flying v than gibson.

Not outside Japan without a Gibson lawsuit.

 

[Masoo2]

Perfect pairing.And I mean... They've already released a Rhoads with a Gibson/Kramer logo on it.

How was Kramer able to have that shape without lawsuit problems like ESP faced for the SV/Alexi in the US?

 

[Zhysick]

How was Kramer able to have that shape without lawsuit problems like ESP faced for the SV/Alexi in the US?

Maybe because Kramer did it in the 80's about the same time Jackson did so...

 

[zappatton2]

I'm callin' it; King V with tribal graphics!! Lol.

 

[Seabeast2000]

Gretsch

Full jazzbox Axxion ftw.

 

[spudmunkey]

There's precedent for BC Rich:

 

[AltecGreen]

All they seem to have left that I know about are Kerry King (retired) and Michael Amott. Is Eric Peterson from Testament still with dean?

They have Miyako from Lovebites. Here signature goes on sale in 2021.

 

[manu80]

They still have karl sanders but thats a niche market
Leamer would be good because like dean they can have a 3/4 different models il terms of prices
Gibson can’t. One gibson at 4k then a 1k epiphone. Period.
So Kramer could work bit at 60 being the flagship of a brand.... i don’t know

 

[mitou]

Wait, isn't Michael Schenker still with Dean? Who was a big part of the reason why Amott and Mustaine went there in the first place, being huge Schenker fanboys?

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Funny thing is this was announced a few days after this video was released



If the Gibson thing is true, then he definitely needed to find a way to one-up Kirk... again.

 

[Church2224]

Couple of artists near the end of contracts who have hinted at not resigning them as well.

You know what is funny about this?

Chris Canella is the product manager/ artist relations guy at Dean. Chris was at Jackson and since he left, Jackson got a bunch of artists and their product line up has gotten much better. Then he went to ESP and ESP had a few artists leave and as I remember their product lineup for a while is not the best, ok but it could have been better, then he left ESP and now ESP is gaining artists and since he left, ESP's product line up has been killing it. And now he is at Dean and artists are leaving, big Dean artists too....

I have a feeling Chris Canella is the common theme here. It could just be a hunch but this is what I notice.