So, let's talk about the new Limp Bizkit...

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I listened today, I felt like I was in high school again! Borland gets some great guitar tone on some of these tracks. This is good nostalgic fun.
 

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Sure ef him, but why does he have a monopoly on baseball caps with my motherland on them again?
 

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Sure ef him, but why does he have a monopoly on baseball caps with my motherland on them again?

It's super ironic that a socialist is so savagely capitalistic that he has the trademarks on all these bits of merch.

Having said that; do you genuinely consider the USSR to be your motherland? As opposed to the RSFSR or even just, like, Russia?
 

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It's super ironic that a socialist is so savagely capitalistic that he has the trademarks on all these bits of merch.

Having said that; do you genuinely consider the USSR to be your motherland? As opposed to the RSFSR or even just, like, Russia?
You know how many Russians want the USSR back? @Adieu please chime in if I'm not remembering correctly but a poll done about 5-10 years ago showed most of the population that was alive then actually miss the USSR.
 

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You know how many Russians want the USSR back? @Adieu please chime in if I'm not remembering correctly but a poll done about 5-10 years ago showed most of the population that was alive then actually miss the USSR.

Yah, but I was asking whether Russian people feel more patriotic/nostalgic specifically for the USSR, which is the big Eurasian empire of commie states, rather than the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, which was the Russian nation itself. I genuinely don't know how Russians feel about this stuff though; whether they feel more connection to the USSR or what. It's just the USSR was fecking huge, and included Azerbaijan and Georgia and Afghanistan, which are distinctly non-russian and don't even use the same alphabet.

I mean, in the US there is a distinct sense of identity for New Yorkers and Texans, right? And it'd be weird to see someone opining in a strong Brooklyn accent that a Texan who has only ever lived in Texas is sullying the good name of the motherland. And it'd be even weirder to see a native Hawaiian saying in Hawaiian "One day I will retire in my motherland... In North Dakota... Because it's all the same thing, right?"
 

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You know how many Russians want the USSR back? @Adieu please chime in if I'm not remembering correctly but a poll done about 5-10 years ago showed most of the population that was alive then actually miss the USSR.

Pretty much

A totalitarian-lite government that projects stability (well...sort of) and social security feels like a dream after decades of authoritarian kleptocracy with high crime and tons of rando bs
 

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It's not really that.

RSFSR made a point of having NO identity.

As to the whole project might thing, for the old USSR, having military might on tap was more about its traumas and phobias. People who experienced running away from Nazi tanks felt having WAY MORE tanks was a very very good use of GDP.

Also, the same old, mostly-gone generations that were delivered by an illiterate folk midwife under an oil lamp felt that their government was GETTING SH!T DONE with electrification, universal literacy, free education, and universal health care.

The whole from no electricity or literacy to first man in space thing was also a huge propaganda coup. The party promised progress AND DELIVERED.
 

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People miss that.

Being kinda poor with constant progress and full security feels STUNNINGLY better than being mostly poor with awful prospects and no stability.
 
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