ElectricBaliset
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This is geared primarily towards six-string players who tune, say, lower than B standard, but higher than E1 standard, but I'm also happy to hear input from any extended-range players who cover a similar range.
I have a 27" baritone that alternates between G and F# standard just for kicks. Most of my instruments keep to tunings much closer to their standard, so on a 7 or 8, I still have access to more or less the full range of a standard 6, but something about having a guitar tuned so impractically low seems appealing to me. I don't use that bari often, because tbh I'm not entirely sure what to do with it from a technical standpoint, but I occasionally return to it just to try and hammer out something new.
On my other instruments I try everything between post-rock, progressive, and even some more straightforward rock. Most of the time on the bari, though, I feel like I come out sounding either like a djent stereotype (which I love, but I don't necessarily want to be a stereotype or sound generic), or a ripoff of downtempo doom bands like Bongripper. I'm normally a very chordal player and get really into working with complex harmonies with moving voices in and between chords, but when you give up so much of your high range, that becomes significantly harder to pull off gracefully. I often end up sinking into rhythmic stuff that rides on the low strings. As I play up the neck and towards the higher strings, I try to incorporate more of my usual technical fare, but I feel like it just ends up sounding like old-school doom; again, not at all a bad thing, but the point is that I end up falling into certain riffing cliches in pretty much either range. I think part of the reason I'm so intent on figuring out how to make this guitar work, is that I know that, even in such a seemingly ridiculous range, there's interesting musical territory to be explored.
So to get some inspiration, I'm curious about the other way guitarists who enjoy tunings in that range, use the instrument, hence the title question. But here are some initial examples of what I have in mind to clarify what I mean by "what do you 'do'?"
* How, if at all, do you incorporate chordal concepts into your playing, especially beyond the usual power chords and low-string chugging?
* How do you keep from falling into the trap of constantly djenting or doubling up on the bassist's role?
* How do you find ways to keep things harmonically interesting?
I realize these questions are kind of vague, but I'm trying to avoid too narrowly steering the conversation. On the other hand, if your answers are more to the contrary to the direction of the questions - i.e., if you mostly just keep to power chords, simple riffs, or follow along with the bass - I'm happy to discuss that, too, and pick your brain for how you got to your style. I'm not necessarily trying to rule anyone out of discussion as much as gather opinions, but I'm mostly hopeful to hear from people who've found a way to do something a little different and maybe impart some ideas.
Tl;dr: (mostly) for you folks who tune way low on a 6 or otherwise just limit your own access to the higher registers - how do you keep you playing interesting and break the cycles that the instrument seems to invite in that range?
I have a 27" baritone that alternates between G and F# standard just for kicks. Most of my instruments keep to tunings much closer to their standard, so on a 7 or 8, I still have access to more or less the full range of a standard 6, but something about having a guitar tuned so impractically low seems appealing to me. I don't use that bari often, because tbh I'm not entirely sure what to do with it from a technical standpoint, but I occasionally return to it just to try and hammer out something new.
On my other instruments I try everything between post-rock, progressive, and even some more straightforward rock. Most of the time on the bari, though, I feel like I come out sounding either like a djent stereotype (which I love, but I don't necessarily want to be a stereotype or sound generic), or a ripoff of downtempo doom bands like Bongripper. I'm normally a very chordal player and get really into working with complex harmonies with moving voices in and between chords, but when you give up so much of your high range, that becomes significantly harder to pull off gracefully. I often end up sinking into rhythmic stuff that rides on the low strings. As I play up the neck and towards the higher strings, I try to incorporate more of my usual technical fare, but I feel like it just ends up sounding like old-school doom; again, not at all a bad thing, but the point is that I end up falling into certain riffing cliches in pretty much either range. I think part of the reason I'm so intent on figuring out how to make this guitar work, is that I know that, even in such a seemingly ridiculous range, there's interesting musical territory to be explored.
So to get some inspiration, I'm curious about the other way guitarists who enjoy tunings in that range, use the instrument, hence the title question. But here are some initial examples of what I have in mind to clarify what I mean by "what do you 'do'?"
* How, if at all, do you incorporate chordal concepts into your playing, especially beyond the usual power chords and low-string chugging?
* How do you keep from falling into the trap of constantly djenting or doubling up on the bassist's role?
* How do you find ways to keep things harmonically interesting?
I realize these questions are kind of vague, but I'm trying to avoid too narrowly steering the conversation. On the other hand, if your answers are more to the contrary to the direction of the questions - i.e., if you mostly just keep to power chords, simple riffs, or follow along with the bass - I'm happy to discuss that, too, and pick your brain for how you got to your style. I'm not necessarily trying to rule anyone out of discussion as much as gather opinions, but I'm mostly hopeful to hear from people who've found a way to do something a little different and maybe impart some ideas.
Tl;dr: (mostly) for you folks who tune way low on a 6 or otherwise just limit your own access to the higher registers - how do you keep you playing interesting and break the cycles that the instrument seems to invite in that range?