eggy in a bready
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Op, put down the guitar nerd youtube-core and go listen to the newest Bongripper and tell me you don't like instrumental metal
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Slow, Death?Op, put down the guitar nerd youtube-core and go listen to the newest Bongripper and tell me you don't like instrumental metal
Hey, I’ve tried for years to get into various instrumental metal bands...
Chimp spanner
Animals as leaders
Andromida
And I just CANT for the hell of it, dig in to it :/
can you explain to me why I SHOULD like it!??? As some of it is very impressive musicianship!
thanks
Instrumental metal is by its nature less creative because you just leave out the single most unique instrument in any given band (singer's voice) and you have no lyrics so you're out an entire songwriting discipline. Get rid of those two items the total "quantity of creativity" left is inevitably going to be less.
With all that room left by the vocal void down the center what steps up to replace it? Never ending guitar solos. In 2019, it's so played out you're going to have a very hard time convincing me your solo is creative. You have to pull out all the stops to do something new.. Animals as Leaders practically invented thumping but that shit was played out before their last album was even half over.
Instrumental metal is by its nature less creative because you just leave out the single most unique instrument in any given band (singer's voice) and you have no lyrics so you're out an entire songwriting discipline. Get rid of those two items the total "quantity of creativity" left is inevitably going to be less.
With all that room left by the vocal void down the center what steps up to replace it? Never ending guitar solos. In 2019, it's so played out you're going to have a very hard time convincing me your solo is creative. You have to pull out all the stops to do something new.. Animals as Leaders practically invented thumping but that shit was played out before their last album was even half over.
I only listen to one or two bands from a big cross section of metal subgenres, so the vocalists all sound vastly different to me but the guitars always sound like 5150s and the drummer always has a clicky kick and a china. One trick vocalists are fine as long as they know exactly how to use the trick (Deafheaven, Amon Amarth) even if they are technically disasters (Neil Young, Tom Petty).Oh no...I mean, no... just no. Have you listened to metal in the last 20 years? 9/10 times the LEAST interesting thing in the band is the vocalist. Either they're a one-trick pony (whether its gutterals, operatic singing, whatever) or they try to cram every conceivable technique into every section of music (sweet techniques bro, still can't understand a word you're saying), and 9/10 times of those 9/10 times the band ends up writing the same song over and over again because the vocalist is either bad or lazy. There is such a wide range of instrumental heavy music, and a lot of it doesn't focus on endless guitar nerdery to be interesting. There's instrumental doom, there's bands like Night Verses, there's the post-metal stuff, stuff like Cloudkicker, its not just endless sweep wankery, nor does it have anything to "make up for" due to a lack of vocals.
I put "quantity of creativity" in quotes because it's a made up concept that doesn't matter. Do people even want a huge quantity of creativity in their shows? Tons of vocal lines, ten virtuosos in one performance, a full orchestra, stage design, beautiful venues - the death of opera says "no" but instrumental metal still sucks. OP shouldn't be confused he doesn't like it. It just means he has tasteCreativity isn't proportional to number of instruments, nor is it so quantifiable and definite.
An awful musician can have a stroke of genius. A great writer can write an awful, boring song.
Eh, while they're not a purely "no-vox" band, The Chasm's best and most lauded songs have generally been their instrumentals (I say "generally" because their all-instrumental album was mostly considered a disappointment, although not because it was all-instrumental).The instrumental spinoff of any metal subgenre is inevitably worse than the "with vocals" version. In my book instrumental bands can aspire to be nothing more than above average and only bands with vox have a chance at greatness. There has been exactly one super successful instrumental metal band, and they have a bizarre gimmick (Christmas music!), were already individually successful before that, and they aren't even totally instrumental.
I put "quantity of creativity" in quotes because it's a made up concept that doesn't matter. Do people even want a huge quantity of creativity in their shows? Tons of vocal lines, ten virtuosos in one performance, a full orchestra, stage design, beautiful venues - the death of opera says "no" but instrumental metal still sucks. OP shouldn't be confused he doesn't like it. It just means he has taste