I'm always up for civil conversation when not being attacked for contrary points of view. This thread is a perfect example of politics these days. Each side is so dug in and hates the other so much that there can be no civility between sides. No exchange of ideas. No compromise. That's very sad for us as a civilization going forward.This is a discussion forum, not a pissing contest forum. Generally, we've done a pretty good job discussing in the past, and if it's "everyone else in this thread" vs you, maybe it's not "everyone else in this thread." Worth giving some thought to. We actually managed to have a civil conversation for a hot minute there a few weeks back.