Anyone know who's producing this one? Couldn't find anything outside of rumors with a quick search.
Slipknot Megathread- New Slipknot song & video/Firing of Chris Fehn
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Mprinsje
st. anger ain't bad!
Man if that isn't the truest thing i've ever read on this forum.
It's a damn shame Mick isn't really into doing much outside of Slipknot. Really tight player with his own tone/sound.
Same with Jim Root. Yeah, I know, Stone Sour, but when's the last time they were compelling musically?
It would be cool to hear more from both of them other than random guest parts every five or six years between Slipknot releases.
Triple7
The Decepticon
I think Iowa was were they peaked...and that's because I believe those were the best songs they wrote. The most creative, and cohesive.
Mprinsje
st. anger ain't bad!
Since it sounds almost exactly like the .5 production i'd say it's Fidelman again. But that's just a guess.
jwade
Doooooooooom
Agree. It was the first time Jim and Mick really wrote together, and I feel like that initial burst of music (and the following album) were incredible for that reason. Solid, cohesive riffs, everything seemed to have its place. I would go so far as to say that Iowa is nearly as impressive as Fear Factory on Demanufacture.
2 minutes in and my initial reaction is "Where are the drum fills?" Definitely missing Joey on this track.
On a separate note, I'm always surprised by the number of people who claim Iowa as their favorite Slipknot album. Their self-titled work is still one of the most chaotic and primal-sounding metal albums I've ever listened to. I'll never forget the first time I listened to (sic), followed by Eyeless - that experience was like getting hit in the face with a cement roller.
On a separate note, I'm always surprised by the number of people who claim Iowa as their favorite Slipknot album. Their self-titled work is still one of the most chaotic and primal-sounding metal albums I've ever listened to. I'll never forget the first time I listened to (sic), followed by Eyeless - that experience was like getting hit in the face with a cement roller.
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A-Branger
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so much yup^^
first album was their best, the most defining sound and experimental, like I said before, after that they buried the Dj/Samples and extra percusion till the point its a 5 piece band. Yes Iwoa is great and heavy, but for me their first album is heavier
and for me it was the music video of Wait and Bleed, that angry heave stuff voice and sudenly the clean vocals of the chorus blew my mind
and yup I miss Joey too, need some dem drum fills yo
prlgmnr
...that kind of idea
Completely pointless without Jordison, his feel was what made the whole thing.
makesexnotwar
Well-Known Member
I'm in the same camp with guys how think that Iowa and self-titled album were their best. For me when vol.3 came out it was one of the biggest disappointments in music. All songs that they wrote since these days just didn't feel like Slipknot with one exception - Custer. That one is really crushing and reminds me good old Slipknot days! 
This new one still not as good as their old songs but anyway I'm looking forward to hear their new album because I still have a little hope which almost is gone(if you know what I mean)
This new one still not as good as their old songs but anyway I'm looking forward to hear their new album because I still have a little hope which almost is gone(if you know what I mean)
FILTHnFEAR
Dread it, run from it....
Pretty boring and forgettable, but that's what I've come to expect from them, honestly.
Nothing has even come close to self titled and Iowa. Iowa being easily my favorite.
Nothing has even come close to self titled and Iowa. Iowa being easily my favorite.
lewis
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my observations:
1) Im now completely over their new found insistence to have every song feel likes it pumping on every beat. Rather than the drums be mixed up or varied. - the newer drummer is NOT, in any way, an adequate Joey replacement.
2) Taylor is attempting his closest impression of his vocals on the first 2 albums. - and kind of failing because..
3) The music is nowhere near as interesting, fresh, angry and sinister sounding. I also really do not like the...
4) Production. I was actually hoping we would get away from the sound they had on the last record production/mix wise, and back to a blend of Vol 3 and All Hope is Gone.
Alas it didnt happen and we have a carbon copy sounding song from everything that was on the previous album. Making his statements about it being the heaviest album ever, abit of a joke when it sounds identical to stuff on just the album before it.
5) the talk/hype - this is really where I know they have gone down hill. Older, top of their game Slipknot never had to come out with statements in the press about how amazing their forthcoming album will be. And how its the "heaviest" (which is just nonsense based on this single)
We would just get artsy, sinister looking/sounding teaser vids and the singles would drop and be incredible. They let their music do all the talking. And it did.
This interview nonsense bigging it all up now actually comes across like they are trying to convince themselves they still "have it" and cling to that, rather than convince fans its what they claim.
6) I actually find all the digital DJ stuff in this cringy, out of place and a complete distraction. It is not as cleverly integrated as what it used to be on the first 3 albums. After that it became too non existent but now its the opposite. TOO over bearing and in your face.
conclusion:
Slipknot have gone from my favourite band, to a decent listen, to starting to get poor live, to straight up disappointing now just within the time frame between Vol 3 to now. And instead of trying to reinvent themselves and try new things, its more of the same. With this single sounding like it could be anything from the previous album as mentioned above.
Completely forgettable single just like the previous completely forgettable album.
Shame.
1) Im now completely over their new found insistence to have every song feel likes it pumping on every beat. Rather than the drums be mixed up or varied. - the newer drummer is NOT, in any way, an adequate Joey replacement.
2) Taylor is attempting his closest impression of his vocals on the first 2 albums. - and kind of failing because..
3) The music is nowhere near as interesting, fresh, angry and sinister sounding. I also really do not like the...
4) Production. I was actually hoping we would get away from the sound they had on the last record production/mix wise, and back to a blend of Vol 3 and All Hope is Gone.
Alas it didnt happen and we have a carbon copy sounding song from everything that was on the previous album. Making his statements about it being the heaviest album ever, abit of a joke when it sounds identical to stuff on just the album before it.
5) the talk/hype - this is really where I know they have gone down hill. Older, top of their game Slipknot never had to come out with statements in the press about how amazing their forthcoming album will be. And how its the "heaviest" (which is just nonsense based on this single)
We would just get artsy, sinister looking/sounding teaser vids and the singles would drop and be incredible. They let their music do all the talking. And it did.
This interview nonsense bigging it all up now actually comes across like they are trying to convince themselves they still "have it" and cling to that, rather than convince fans its what they claim.
6) I actually find all the digital DJ stuff in this cringy, out of place and a complete distraction. It is not as cleverly integrated as what it used to be on the first 3 albums. After that it became too non existent but now its the opposite. TOO over bearing and in your face.
conclusion:
Slipknot have gone from my favourite band, to a decent listen, to starting to get poor live, to straight up disappointing now just within the time frame between Vol 3 to now. And instead of trying to reinvent themselves and try new things, its more of the same. With this single sounding like it could be anything from the previous album as mentioned above.
Completely forgettable single just like the previous completely forgettable album.
Shame.
lewis
Well-Known Member
complete agreement with this.
Also, There is defo something majorly missing now since Paul too.
I don't think Paul and Joey gone is that noteworthy, it's just the music is so boring that you're looking for anything to stick out and be special, which at least Joey sometimes provided.
isispelican
Well-Known Member
I don't have a reference for this but I was under the impression that they had major inputs in a lot of the songs. Would be interesting to see some songwriting credits.
prlgmnr
...that kind of idea
In 20 years or so of over-quantized, click-track metal he consistently stood out as someone who played to a song rather than to a grid, and I'm saying this as far from a Slipknot fan.
duffbeer33
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Jim has been out of Stone Sour for years.
I like the tune. Reminded me of Sarcastrophe. I've always loved that signature treble-y tone that Jim and Mick have in their guitars. I'm sure Jim's tele and strat sigs with the EMGs have a lot to do with it.
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There's some more studio video on the PoweredByOmega Instagram of Mick tracking guitar for the new album using their Obsidian and Iridium amps but I can see why this wasn't included in a Rivera sponsored video.
I thought the new track was just missing something. Doesn't really stand out and grab your attention.
I'm sure they had some input, I just don't think they would have saved the track, or the more recent albums.
I know, I just know that mentioning Stone Sour is the default answer when folks want more from Root that isn't Slipknot. I think what he did on the RRU track and with John 5 was great. I wish we could get more of that.
I think their sound has a lot to do with the amps and pickups, active EMGs/Duncans into Rivera/Orange is easy to get aggressive, treble heavy tone.
