Slipknot Megathread- New Slipknot song & video/Firing of Chris Fehn

[BIG ND SWEATY]

Slipknot starts and ends with me at the self-titled album, Iowa had a couple ok songs but I can't stand anything they've done since then. I didn't think there were Slipknot fans who don't like the self-titled.

 

[Triple7]

Yeah, anything beyond Iowa has been sub par in my opinion as well. Those first two albums though, are awesome.

I remember seeing an interview they did when Iowa came out, saying the labels wanted an album full of Wait and Bleeds...so they responded with the heaviness that was Iowa. Now every song is Wait and Bleed. Shame.

 

[Esp Griffyn]

Wait and Bleed was ten times the song that anything following Iowa was. Wait and Bleed was super catchy despite being super heavy, it's a surprisingly marketable song purely by chance and in spite of its uncompromising heaviness. When they got to Vol3 they were trying to write for radio and it shows.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

Wait and Bleed was ten times the song that anything following Iowa was. Wait and Bleed was super catchy despite being super heavy, it's a surprisingly marketable song purely by chance and in spite of its uncompromising heaviness. When they got to Vol3 they were trying to write for radio and it shows.

Vol3 was all Rick Rubin. It's got his name all over it.

 

[coreysMonster]

I must be in the minority the thinks Mate Feed Kill Repeat was sick. I love trying to pick out riffs they reused from that album on later releases. S/T and Iowa kill too.

MFKR was awesome. Half the songs were about the Werewolf tabletop RPG Anders used to play, which makes it even more awesome.

 

[KnightBrolaire]

I like Vol3 and some of All Hope is Gone. Obviously Iowa is top tier, but mick and other guys in the band said that took a huge toll on them to record that album so I wouldn't ever expect an album that raw and nasty to ever have a spiritual successor.

 

[GunpointMetal]

Obviously Iowa is top tier, but mick and other guys in the band said that took a huge toll on them to record that album so I wouldn't ever expect an album that raw and nasty to ever have a spiritual successor.

Between S/T and IOWA they were all pretty much saying that the band was meant to be aggressive and cathartic and multiple times someone had said something along the lines of "If we can't bring that energy and emotion to it, we're gonna call it quits". Of course getting mega-popular and making a lot of money changed that, but they probably should have thrown it in after IOWA, as far as I'm concerned. Everything after was not to the level of S/T and IOWA.

 

[KnightBrolaire]

Between S/T and IOWA they were all pretty much saying that the band was meant to be aggressive and cathartic and multiple times someone had said something along the lines of "If we can't bring that energy and emotion to it, we're gonna call it quits". Of course getting mega-popular and making a lot of money changed that, but they probably should have thrown it in after IOWA, as far as I'm concerned. Everything after was not to the level of S/T and IOWA.

I think Vol3 was a fine sequel to Iowa, it had a good mix of more mainstream stuff and still heavy af riffage. All hope is gone was even more watered down but I still don't mind it compared to other mainstream shit. Expecting another Iowa from Slipknot is like expecting another Ride the Lightning/Master of Puppets from Metallica, that ship has long sailed.

 

[Mathemagician]

With a lot of bands like this I have taken the opinion as I get older that “I’m glad I got an awesome album(s) that I love, and I’m glad they still keep putting out stuff I can at least find interesting/can keep them writing music and touring.”

The Metallica example is great. Would the world be a “better place” if they stopped writing after AJFA/BA/whatever? No. So why should they? Same with slipknot. They are STILL bringing new fans to metal shows year after year.

I definitely think younger fans (of all genres) get attached to a bands sound at whatever point they discovered them, and then don’t like when bands do whatever it takes to stay relevant and working.

Not everyone gets to be slayer releasing the same material for 30 years.

Mandatory: Iowa still slaps tho. Lol.

 

[GunpointMetal]

Slayer always sucked, though. I'm all for bands doing new things, unless those new things suck. My thing with Slipknot is (and this is probably related to how old I was when they came out), they came out with a mission statement more or less that Slipknot as a band was 200% or nothing, and after Iowa it felt like about 85% and then a steady decline after that.

 

[Cynicanal]

Slayer always sucked, though.

Not everyone gets to be slayer releasing the same material for 30 years.

I'm going to guess you've never actually heard more than one Slayer album?

 

[Señor Voorhees]

With a lot of bands like this I have taken the opinion as I get older that “I’m glad I got an awesome album(s) that I love, and I’m glad they still keep putting out stuff I can at least find interesting/can keep them writing music and touring.”

The Metallica example is great. Would the world be a “better place” if they stopped writing after AJFA/BA/whatever? No. So why should they? Same with slipknot. They are STILL bringing new fans to metal shows year after year.

I definitely think younger fans (of all genres) get attached to a bands sound at whatever point they discovered them, and then don’t like when bands do whatever it takes to stay relevant and working.

Not everyone gets to be slayer releasing the same material for 30 years.

Mandatory: Iowa still slaps tho. Lol.

This times 1000.

A band still existing but doing stuff you don't like doesn't take away the stuff you did like. No reason to wish their demise if they're doing stuff that others like. Which is why during vol 3/ahig, I just didn't listen to them. They weren't for me, but they were for someone. I liked .5 enough that I'm looking forward to their new album... if it's as boring as their most recent single, I'll just go back to listening to the stuff I DO like.

It's just weird how entitled a lot of people seem to be. "I liked their old stuff, then they changed with time and I don't like them so they should stop... never mind the millions of people who actually still enjoy it, *I* hate it so they should stop."

 

[GunpointMetal]

I'm going to guess you've never actually heard more than one Slayer album?

Oh look, a pizza cutter. All edge and no point. Anal Cunt sucks, too. Seth Putnam was an incel. Slayer had some cool riffs, and then ruined them with whatever the fuck that was that they considered "solos" and the vocals.

It's just weird how entitled a lot of people seem to be. "I liked their old stuff, then they changed with time and I don't like them so they should stop... never mind the millions of people who actually still enjoy it, *I* hate it so they should stop."

This isn't what I was saying. They had a respectable (at the time, for me) stance that once it got stale/old hat, they'd hang it up because that's what the "band was about", and when they didn't, it made them look like sellouts in the purest form of the word. Beating the dead horse because there was a check involved.

 

[Cynicanal]

Seth Putnam was an incel.

Given that there's a widely-circulated photo of Seth getting a blowjob while shooting up, I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.

 

[GunpointMetal]

You're right, my bad. Seth Putnam was a loser asshole racist homophobe. My bad.
Edit: who consistently made garbage music FOR incels and edgelords.

 

[Cynicanal]

Someone who thinks Slayer sucks has no room to talk about what other musicians may or may not be garbage.

Also, given the bandcamp link in your sig, you calling anyone else an edgelord is ironic as fuck.

 

[GunpointMetal]

Ha, Ok.

 

[BIG ND SWEATY]

The best part about Anal Cunt are the song titles, the music itself is ass. Not sure how having a bandcamp link in his sig makes him an edgelord though.

 

[Cynicanal]

It's not the link itself, it's the content at the destination said link points to. I would have thought that went without saying.

 

[Mprinsje]

Someone who thinks Slayer sucks has no room to talk about what other musicians may or may not be garbage.

Slayer is an awful band. Truly terrible.

Also, Vol.3 is the best Slipknot record. By far.