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Slipknot starts and ends with me at the self-titled album, Iowa had a couple ok songs but I can't stand anything they've done since then. I didn't think there were Slipknot fans who don't like the self-titled.
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Wait and Bleed was ten times the song that anything following Iowa was. Wait and Bleed was super catchy despite being super heavy, it's a surprisingly marketable song purely by chance and in spite of its uncompromising heaviness. When they got to Vol3 they were trying to write for radio and it shows.
MFKR was awesome. Half the songs were about the Werewolf tabletop RPG Anders used to play, which makes it even more awesome.I must be in the minority the thinks Mate Feed Kill Repeat was sick. I love trying to pick out riffs they reused from that album on later releases. S/T and Iowa kill too.
Between S/T and IOWA they were all pretty much saying that the band was meant to be aggressive and cathartic and multiple times someone had said something along the lines of "If we can't bring that energy and emotion to it, we're gonna call it quits". Of course getting mega-popular and making a lot of money changed that, but they probably should have thrown it in after IOWA, as far as I'm concerned. Everything after was not to the level of S/T and IOWA.Obviously Iowa is top tier, but mick and other guys in the band said that took a huge toll on them to record that album so I wouldn't ever expect an album that raw and nasty to ever have a spiritual successor.
I think Vol3 was a fine sequel to Iowa, it had a good mix of more mainstream stuff and still heavy af riffage. All hope is gone was even more watered down but I still don't mind it compared to other mainstream shit. Expecting another Iowa from Slipknot is like expecting another Ride the Lightning/Master of Puppets from Metallica, that ship has long sailed.Between S/T and IOWA they were all pretty much saying that the band was meant to be aggressive and cathartic and multiple times someone had said something along the lines of "If we can't bring that energy and emotion to it, we're gonna call it quits". Of course getting mega-popular and making a lot of money changed that, but they probably should have thrown it in after IOWA, as far as I'm concerned. Everything after was not to the level of S/T and IOWA.
Slayer always sucked, though.
I'm going to guess you've never actually heard more than one Slayer album?Mathemagician said:Not everyone gets to be slayer releasing the same material for 30 years.
With a lot of bands like this I have taken the opinion as I get older that “I’m glad I got an awesome album(s) that I love, and I’m glad they still keep putting out stuff I can at least find interesting/can keep them writing music and touring.”
The Metallica example is great. Would the world be a “better place” if they stopped writing after AJFA/BA/whatever? No. So why should they? Same with slipknot. They are STILL bringing new fans to metal shows year after year.
I definitely think younger fans (of all genres) get attached to a bands sound at whatever point they discovered them, and then don’t like when bands do whatever it takes to stay relevant and working.
Not everyone gets to be slayer releasing the same material for 30 years.
Mandatory: Iowa still slaps tho. Lol.
I'm going to guess you've never actually heard more than one Slayer album?
This isn't what I was saying. They had a respectable (at the time, for me) stance that once it got stale/old hat, they'd hang it up because that's what the "band was about", and when they didn't, it made them look like sellouts in the purest form of the word. Beating the dead horse because there was a check involved.It's just weird how entitled a lot of people seem to be. "I liked their old stuff, then they changed with time and I don't like them so they should stop... never mind the millions of people who actually still enjoy it, *I* hate it so they should stop."
Given that there's a widely-circulated photo of Seth getting a blowjob while shooting up, I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.Seth Putnam was an incel.
Someone who thinks Slayer sucks has no room to talk about what other musicians may or may not be garbage.