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how do u guys not go insane making music all day and practicing arpeggios all day ? if I sit down for hours everyday my ass starts to indent and I get bad sciatica, thing is that I actually stretch and move my shit more than most people, I can throw 540 wheels kicks I’m a blue belt in bjj and a world class boxer. So people who don’t work out and make music are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore ? My brother was into music a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love martial arts but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into music so I could do something with my life and play local shows, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking at sharps and flats on a computer screen. I’m starting to think all musicians actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as a musician, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for musicians. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on music concepts and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being musicians but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re practicing shred guitar, writing GOOD music, recording, learning music theory, learning recording, learning live show sound. ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic musician with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U play with little music notes all day sitting in your basement
Yah, I get what you're saying. Being sedentary obviously isn't healthy. At the very least we should take breaks often and get up, walk, stretch, anything. You will kinda go insane otherwise.
 

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Sadly the OP is a good example of the nonsense rethoric we get online. It would be funny if it hadn't found its way beyond message boards. The internet could have expanded our world but it seems there's a bunch of people determined to shrink it.
 

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So people who don’t work out and make art are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore? My brother was into art a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love martial arts but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into art so I could do something with my life and make art, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking at colors, shapes and techniques ion a canvas or table. I’m starting to think all artists actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as an artist, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for artists. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on aesthetics and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being artists but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re practicing techniques, creating GOOD art, techniques, learning color theory, learning new materials learning new styles ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic artist with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U play with art suppolies all day in your basement

So people who don’t work out and cook are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore? My brother was into cooking a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love martial arts but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into cooking so I could do something with my life and make tasty things, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking at ingredients and techniques in a cook book. I’m starting to think all cooks actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as a cook, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for cooks. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on flavor concepts and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being cooks but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re practicing techniques, creating GOOD food, techniques, learning flavor theory, learning recepies learning cooking techniques ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic cook with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U play with food all day in your basement

So people who don’t work out and write are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore? My brother was into writing a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love writing but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into writing so I could do something with my life and sell a story or self-publish a book, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking at words and sentences on a computer screen. I’m starting to think all writers actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as a writer, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for writers. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on communicating ideas via your written word and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being writers but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re practicing writing in different styles, creating GOOD stories or poetry, learning new words and styles, learning how different narration styles effect your artwork. ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic writer with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U play with cwords all day sitting in your basement

So people who don’t work out and work on cars are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore? My brother was into working on cars a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love martial arts but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into working on cars so I could do something with my life and enter a car show, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking hoses and bels under a car hood. I’m starting to think all mechanics actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as a grease monkey, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for mechanics. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on your cars and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being mechanics but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re learning about new tools and technology, creating GOOD-running and GOOD-looking cars ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic mechanic with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U play with wrenches and oil all day sitting in your garage
 

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PSA: This dumpsterfire thread has run its course and is now about music that you listen to when you feel like quitting.

I couldn't imagine actually quitting, I'd sooner be dead, but I think about it all the time.

I listen to this whenever I feel like throwing my guitars in traffic, it always makes me feel a lot better. Makes me think about how I started playing guitar because I was a weird loser kid and wanted to be cooler. I spent most of my "practice" time figuring out how to sound like a third-rate Adam Jones copy and trying to look cool holding the guitar. I always carried it to school because it had become an accessory, even though I wasn't in band class.

I grew up and I'm still a weird loser, just now I have this burning desire for creative fulfillment that is both constantly at odds with and also fueled by my childhood fantasies. Making peace with that is the real work. I'm more or less exactly who I thought I wanted to be at 16, now fucking what?

 

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^^^ Dude... You are not a loser. Always remember that you are SSO's hat!

I wasn't fishing but I'm not one to sniff a gift fish!

I really meant it more in the sense of my own socialization habits. Late teens and early 20s I started being a lot more outgoing and charismatic and built a really massive social group. Late 20s into my 30s I started getting really disenchanted with the cliques and Mean Girls music scene stuff, along with the perpetual excusing of shitty behavior by people who are "valuable" to the scene.

I also started picking up that certain people definitely saw my image as a way of accessorizing their own image whether in a social justice or art sense. I'm not aggrandizing myself here, I'm far from the only person to experience this and it's not because I'm special, it's just because I have a guitar and a bit of charisma and some out-there opinions to go along with my out-there art. I make for a "quaint" set piece on the stage of others' bids for social currency/activist clout/customers and I'm not about it.

So I'm back where I started, keeping mostly to myself. Difference now is it's (more or less) by choice. It is very freeing, booking and playing shows when and where and why *I* want to, not because I'm trying to chase my slice of the "cool guy pie" by making enough appearances on stage per month. I've got a few really special gigs planned for the next two years that I'm very excited about. I practiced more for my last gig than I ever had for a solo set before because it was something I was doing for myself, whereas when I was chasing that social currency I didn't try nearly as hard because my priority was being seen on stage, not performing the songs I'd written to the best of my ability. I used to feel like I needed to book a gig if I hadn't been seen on stage in the last month or two, now I know what's next and I have no desire to rush it.
 

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PSA: This dumpsterfire thread has run its course and is now about music that you listen to when you feel like quitting.
Quitting or quilting?

how do u guys not go insane making quilts all day and practicing herringbone stitches all day ? if I sit down for hours everyday my ass starts to indent and I get bad sciatica, thing is that I actually stretch and move my shit more than most people, I can throw 540 wheels kicks I’m a blue belt in bjj and a world class boxer. So people who don’t work out and make quilts are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore ? My brother was into quilting a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love martial arts but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into quilting so I could do something with my life and sell at the local farmer's market, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking at silks and flannels on a channel stitch. I’m starting to think all quilters actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as a quilter, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for quilters. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on stitching concepts and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being quilters but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re practicing flat felled seams, designing GOOD contrasting shades, button placketing, learning stitching theory, learning binding, learning applique. ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic musician with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U stitch with few little scraps all day sitting in your basement
 

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Quitting or quilting?

how do u guys not go insane making quilts all day and practicing herringbone stitches all day ? if I sit down for hours everyday my ass starts to indent and I get bad sciatica, thing is that I actually stretch and move my shit more than most people, I can throw 540 wheels kicks I’m a blue belt in bjj and a world class boxer. So people who don’t work out and make quilts are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore ? My brother was into quilting a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love martial arts but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into quilting so I could do something with my life and sell at the local farmer's market, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking at silks and flannels on a channel stitch. I’m starting to think all quilters actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as a quilter, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for quilters. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on stitching concepts and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being quilters but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re practicing flat felled seams, designing GOOD contrasting shades, button placketing, learning stitching theory, learning binding, learning applique. ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic musician with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U stitch with few little scraps all day sitting in your basement

I am no quilter, but I do enjoy DIY clothing repair and prefer sewn to ironed patches for aesthetics as well as durability. Unfortunately, carpal tunnel has made it very difficult to manipulate a needle for long periods these days. I wish I could still stitch with little scraps all day, and I miss my basement.
 

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I’ve never once actually considered quitting music. I did decide around 34 that I was going to quit pursuing music as a career and that was the best decision I ever made, I’ve written so much more music in the last 5 years and have grown more as a musician faster than I had in the previous 22 years up to that point.

I’ve been in a few discussions lately involving talent and natural ability, neither of which I believe people need to be born with and it can be developed through legit hard work. Of course, I can only speak from my own experience/POV with it, but nothing what I’m capable of now came naturally, it was sheer force of will that got me where I am and that’s caused me to ponder where the drive to keep going has come from.

It started as the desire to be good at something; all my peers were into sports and seemed like they already had their personalities put together, even when we were in 4th grade. As time went on, I just got more hungry to learn. Each small success I had when learning a new song or technique drove me to want more while also showing me I was capable of doing the things I wanted to do as long as I put the effort into it. Then guitar wasn’t enough, I had to learn how to play drums, then bass, then singing, then keys and that drive is still there, despite all the failed bands, despite my pursuit of a career in music failing repeatedly, despite all the issues it’s caused on the financial side of things.

And last night I heard this quote from Vai that really resonated with me-

“The ideas that you get that are inspired, they come from your higher self, or the universe. The inspired ideas you get within yourself actually are tailor made for you, they’re specific to your tools that you have, your interests and your ability to manifest them. Those specific ideas that come to you must be honored or you will suffer. They are your fulfillment and without honoring them you will be unfulfilled.”

Which certainly circles back to the original reason I started playing, I just wanted some kind of fulfillment with life. Music has never not provided that for me.
 

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“The ideas that you get that are inspired, they come from your higher self, or the universe. The inspired ideas you get within yourself actually are tailor made for you, they’re specific to your tools that you have, your interests and your ability to manifest them. Those specific ideas that come to you must be honored or you will suffer. They are your fulfillment and without honoring them you will be unfulfilled.”

Alan Moore, cringey though he can be, has said something very similar about art and magic and I think it's just spot on. I feel it every time inspiration strikes, it's like touching something way beyond my "self" in the way I think of it in a materialistic day-to-day sense. I hope always that every person is able to find the thing that puts them in touch with that feeling because it's sublime beyond description.
 

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Fortunately I'm a woman, so I'm safe from having to be alpha, beta, sigma, whateverthefuck.

Anyway, if this is memeing, this is funny. If not, then it's even more funny. Time to go and actually read beyond the first page and see what's up. lol
Bruh women are such beta males. Go do some sit-ups in a park and eat some raw meat. Searing flesh is so mid.
 

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I wasn't fishing but I'm not one to sniff a gift fish!

I really meant it more in the sense of my own socialization habits. Late teens and early 20s I started being a lot more outgoing and charismatic and built a really massive social group. Late 20s into my 30s I started getting really disenchanted with the cliques and Mean Girls music scene stuff, along with the perpetual excusing of shitty behavior by people who are "valuable" to the scene.

I also started picking up that certain people definitely saw my image as a way of accessorizing their own image whether in a social justice or art sense. I'm not aggrandizing myself here, I'm far from the only person to experience this and it's not because I'm special, it's just because I have a guitar and a bit of charisma and some out-there opinions to go along with my out-there art. I make for a "quaint" set piece on the stage of others' bids for social currency/activist clout/customers and I'm not about it.

So I'm back where I started, keeping mostly to myself. Difference now is it's (more or less) by choice. It is very freeing, booking and playing shows when and where and why *I* want to, not because I'm trying to chase my slice of the "cool guy pie" by making enough appearances on stage per month. I've got a few really special gigs planned for the next two years that I'm very excited about. I practiced more for my last gig than I ever had for a solo set before because it was something I was doing for myself, whereas when I was chasing that social currency I didn't try nearly as hard because my priority was being seen on stage, not performing the songs I'd written to the best of my ability. I used to feel like I needed to book a gig if I hadn't been seen on stage in the last month or two, now I know what's next and I have no desire to rush it.
When I was in my 20s/ 30s I spent a lot of time just wishing for a day or night to myself. My apartment was like the stoner/ musician/ artist hub and it was kickin pretty much 24/ 7. And I allowed it to be that way so whatever on that. I think it stemmed from an isolated childhood. As a boy, I had friends but I def wasn't the popular kid. So yeah... I liked that my house became the place to hang out even though it was often times out of control. Into my 30s I was more than happy to start distancing myself from a lot of those people and I began appreciating just spending time with myself and my g/f. It gets old worrying about your stuff disappearing and your house getting trashed as well as other legitimate concerns. Oh, and nothing like tip-toeing around other peoples piss and pubic hair in the bathroom.

Now that I'm older and married, I do kinda miss the days of living that kind of life but I'd much rather have the peace & quiet and security than to still be surrounded by hell-raisers and the like. I consider myself fortunate to at least have a solid relationship with my wife and at least a couple of sincere friends still around.. As long as my wife and my cat can keep putting up with my weird ramblings and obsessive personality, then I'm good.
Quitting or quilting?

how do u guys not go insane making quilts all day and practicing herringbone stitches all day ? if I sit down for hours everyday my ass starts to indent and I get bad sciatica, thing is that I actually stretch and move my shit more than most people, I can throw 540 wheels kicks I’m a blue belt in bjj and a world class boxer. So people who don’t work out and make quilts are all pre diabetic and have no ass and legs anymore ? My brother was into quilting a lot when he was younger and had skin folds drooping from his ass at 140lbs 6 foot. I love martial arts but got into some trouble so I don’t wanna compete professionally, got back into quilting so I could do something with my life and sell at the local farmer's market, honestly I’d rather just workout and live a normal life instead of having a numb ass looking at silks and flannels on a channel stitch. I’m starting to think all quilters actually hate there life and don’t really enjoy there lives. also….if you have any friends or girlfriends they’ll see you as a quilter, not very alpha…..it’s kind of a lose lose for quilters. u get seen as a beta, waste your life on stitching concepts and become weaker. ya I know some people stay in good shape while being quilters but that’s just muscle usually, if you’re practicing flat felled seams, designing GOOD contrasting shades, button placketing, learning stitching theory, learning binding, learning applique. ya u can get decently jacked working out an hour here and there, that’s not going to make you feel like a healthy human being, you need to get some sun and be outdoors like it’s pretty simple, do cardio, calisthenics etc…. You’re not going to satisfy the human body by putting on a bit of muscle with your 1 or 2 hours at the gym you’re going to be a neurotic musician with a little bicep bulge wanting everyone to think you’re cool and hardcore, nah Man U stitch with few little scraps all day sitting in your basement
Dude, my wife sews, knits, and crochets and she's got a great ass! You can have a beautiful figure too and an afghan or a couple of sassy crop-tops to boot! Just set your mind to it and your muscle mass will only be eclipsed by your superior fashionista skillz.
 

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On a serious note, since I don't know what the hell the tone of this thread is supposed to be:

Every time I look at my 3 youtube views from my videos from last year, or log into my Distrokid to see my balance of $0.00 from eight and a half streams from the grand total of 10 albums I've released independently, part of me wants to quit doing music. Whenever my wife tells me that I'm wasting money by keeping that Distrokid account going every year, I feel like part of me wants to quit music. But, those things aren't why I do music. I do music because it's enjoyable to do music. Sure, aspects of it are often frustrating. Why can't I play this thing I used to be able to play, why is it so hard to learn this new technique, why can't I find anyone who says that they want to jam who actually bothers to show up to jam, etc.? But, at the end of the day, when that stuff stresses me out, I can just pick up old trusty rusty and blast out "Laid to Rest" or a pretty good rendition of the rhythm guitar part to "Holy Wars" with a god-awful rendition of the solos, and I feel good. Not about my shit playing or about myself or about where I am in my life, but in spite of all of that garbage, and all of the other garbage, I have something that I can connect to that takes me out of my own head.

And if I record something, the reason is never "oh, I could make money," it's only ever "this would be fun."
 

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On a serious note, since I don't know what the hell the tone of this thread is supposed to be:

Every time I look at my 3 youtube views from my videos from last year, or log into my Distrokid to see my balance of $0.00 from eight and a half streams from the grand total of 10 albums I've released independently, part of me wants to quit doing music. Whenever my wife tells me that I'm wasting money by keeping that Distrokid account going every year, I feel like part of me wants to quit music. But, those things aren't why I do music. I do music because it's enjoyable to do music. Sure, aspects of it are often frustrating. Why can't I play this thing I used to be able to play, why is it so hard to learn this new technique, why can't I find anyone who says that they want to jam who actually bothers to show up to jam, etc.? But, at the end of the day, when that stuff stresses me out, I can just pick up old trusty rusty and blast out "Laid to Rest" or a pretty good rendition of the rhythm guitar part to "Holy Wars" with a god-awful rendition of the solos, and I feel good. Not about my shit playing or about myself or about where I am in my life, but in spite of all of that garbage, and all of the other garbage, I have something that I can connect to that takes me out of my own head.

And if I record something, the reason is never "oh, I could make money," it's only ever "this would be fun."
For real. I've seen so many people over the last ten years give up because they couldn't turn it into a career in two years of whatever and it's sad. If you're making art (like actual art, not cover bands, not tribute bands) and you're doing it for money/clout/women/men/attention you should've quit before your started, because those are all bad reasons to use up your creativity. If those are the things you want you should've joined that function band, or started a Talking Heads tribute or something. I've actually seen a few bands that start out with a mission statement like "If we can't survive off merch sales and touring in 18 months we're quitting" and then they're a doom band or some shit, lol. Like holy shit, have realistic expectations.
 

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On a serious note, since I don't know what the hell the tone of this thread is supposed to be:

Every time I look at my 3 youtube views from my videos from last year, or log into my Distrokid to see my balance of $0.00 from eight and a half streams from the grand total of 10 albums I've released independently, part of me wants to quit doing music. Whenever my wife tells me that I'm wasting money by keeping that Distrokid account going every year, I feel like part of me wants to quit music. But, those things aren't why I do music. I do music because it's enjoyable to do music. Sure, aspects of it are often frustrating. Why can't I play this thing I used to be able to play, why is it so hard to learn this new technique, why can't I find anyone who says that they want to jam who actually bothers to show up to jam, etc.? But, at the end of the day, when that stuff stresses me out, I can just pick up old trusty rusty and blast out "Laid to Rest" or a pretty good rendition of the rhythm guitar part to "Holy Wars" with a god-awful rendition of the solos, and I feel good. Not about my shit playing or about myself or about where I am in my life, but in spite of all of that garbage, and all of the other garbage, I have something that I can connect to that takes me out of my own head.

And if I record something, the reason is never "oh, I could make money," it's only ever "this would be fun."

For real. I've seen so many people over the last ten years give up because they couldn't turn it into a career in two years of whatever and it's sad. If you're making art (like actual art, not cover bands, not tribute bands) and you're doing it for money/clout/women/men/attention you should've quit before your started, because those are all bad reasons to use up your creativity. If those are the things you want you should've joined that function band, or started a Talking Heads tribute or something. I've actually seen a few bands that start out with a mission statement like "If we can't survive off merch sales and touring in 18 months we're quitting" and then they're a doom band or some shit, lol. Like holy shit, have realistic expectations.


Ok hot take: y'all are reading way too deep into the unhinged rant of a lunatic on the internet.
OP sounds like "I tried spicy ramen, but got a stomach upset so FUCK RAMEN I'M DONE WITH RAMEN Y'ALL BETA FOR LIKING RAMEN FUCK RAMEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"


...sorry, it just surprised me how seriously a barely coherent rant is being taken...
 


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