Wintersun's Groundhog's Day Thread

[TedEH]

We got a discussion about the subject in their patreon forum few days before

I don't understand how someone can receive so much pushback from so many angles and still insist that there's zero merit to any of that criticism.

 

[Choop]

"Never done crowdfunding in the traditional way" is one way to frame misusing it (or just flat-out misunderstanding its purpose).

 

[nightflameauto]

Metropolis is like a troll in a permanent, fixed position 69. Both a troll and a biter, all the time, every time.

 

[Whoman Bean]

If I'm Jari, do I suck at guitar then?

Ofc, that's why you do only vocals live. And you suck at it as well

 

[Metropolis]

Metropolis is like a troll in a permanent, fixed position 69. Both a troll and a biter, all the time, every time.

Ofc, that's why you do only vocals live. And you suck at it as well

 

[fantom]

I took it as somekind of mission since 2017 and crowdfunding of TFS. I just like to argue and prove that people are wrong, they don't even have to be wrong absolutely. Just something that I don't agree is usually enough to start it They rarely agree with me though... my perspective as a fan of the band for the last almost 20 years might be different. I think too much future and possibilities which are somewhat abstract, and how those kind of thoughts have gotten more clear in my mind when time goes on with Jari and Wintersun. Sometimes it's hard to get the message through when writing in internet, this applies to quite many who are here I think. It's not that much of an investment when you do it here and there, I don't have to get on every argument about this band. Mainly whole thing triggers when Wintersun shows more activity, as you may have seen.

I get that you like arguing. That's pretty fucking obvious. But while you think this are getting more clear, realize, you aren't making logical statements. You are arguing your beliefs when people are challenging your logic. So you could practice that.

For example, if someone tells you a non controversial statement, and you reply with, "well I think x", you pretty much failed at arguing.

In a way anyone who bought Time 1 has already paid for Time 2. It was only half an album which people paid full price for so this is just the patch adding back in the missing tracks.

You know what, if Jari released Time 2 to everyone who bought a copy of Time 1, I would actually respect him as a businessman more. I'd even legitimately go out of my way to listen to Time 2 at least one time.

Realistically, I have enough other shit to listen to and have zero motivation to prioritize Wintersun.

 

[nightflameauto]

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Hmm. Trump defending Jari, a like-minded self-proclaimed god. You style of "argument" seems to fit the mold. The complete lack of logic and an utter inability to see anything from any othe perspective than your own?

Now it's starting to make sense.

 

[TheDandy]

Track list and artwork announced. Praying that One With the Shadows is a more concise track and not just a very long interlude

 

[MaxOfMetal]

What a stupid fucking font.

 

[TedEH]

It's the same font from Time 1. Which doesn't make it better, but at least it's consistent.

I like the general idea behind the album art, but I find it fatiguing to parse - like someone discovered old-school faux-HDR photography and ran with it. There's no focus area, no lines to follow, and with so much contrast and texture, the eyes have no idea what to look at. I'm not an artist, but I've sat in on some art talks, and this flies in the face of the very little I understand about how to do visual art or graphic design. Like it sits on the edge between professional looking and "graphic design is my passion".

 

[MFB]

Finally, the Kung Fu Panda/Master Oogway symphonic/black metal concept album we've all been waiting for

 

[Whoman Bean]

Storm of Snowman Jingle Bells - that should be a bonus track.

 

[Concerto412]

What a stupid fucking font.

To be fair, I mutter this to myself about most band logos anymore. I don’t love the cheesy swashbuckler vibes (AleStorm would look right at home with this font) but at least it doesn’t look like a vascular map.

 

[Dayn]

To be fair, I mutter this to myself about most band logos anymore. I don’t love the cheesy swashbuckler vibes (AleStorm would look right at home with this font) but at least it doesn’t look like a vascular map.

BRB, starting death metal band called Vascular Cartography.

 

[SamSam]

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Kai is now full time with Darkwoods My Betrothed. I wonder how this will impact tour plans for Wintersun in 2034.

 

[p0ke]

Track list and artwork announced. Praying that One With the Shadows is a more concise track and not just a very long interlude

My thoughts exactly. The name kinda reminds me of the final verse of Beyond the Dark Sun (now, when the darkness has become part of me...), so here's hoping it's a continuation of that song. I guess that's a pretty generic metal song name though, so it might be a bit of a stretch. But one can hope...?

Fields of Snow is also long enough to be an actual song, but most likely it's just a 4 minute intro before the intro of the first actual song. The intro on Time I is also 4 minutes, so I guess that settles that...

 

[ezboarderz]

It’s called the Time package, so I guess you get the first album too?

 

[gunshow86de]

 

[mehegama]

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It’s called the Time package, so I guess you get the first album too?

like you can't find that in 3 clicks for free. As I said, out of principal, anything Wintersun releases, I will download it.

 

[iamaom]

If Jaari is using crowd funding money and album sales, what exactly is nuclear blast's relationship with the band now? What is the label doing that warrants wintersun staying with them and vice-versa?