Whoman Bean
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I unknowingly bought a Kiesel that someone made a 22 page thread complaining about.
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slim231990
Areola51
For my fellow guitarists who like to keep it simple and beautiful I got you.
slim231990
Areola51
Annndd the wife's.....
"So what's the deal with the 'thinner ' neck option anyway?"
You can often buy better fireworks over the state line, but you can't take your machine guns.
slim231990
Areola51
I fucking love knock off brands and in my opinion they tend to be better most of the time. Maybe that's why I'm such a Kiesel Bro. For real tho anybody else have any love for Aldi (Midwest Grocery Store) in this bitch?
Lord Voldemort
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Wow, awesome playing! Me like it big time
Hey, thanks! I'm far less comfortable with these compliments than I am with the confrontations I've been getting, it's why I don't post my music here or anywhere else really.
That Vader was great, built super well. I was a little disappointed in a couple of ways that come down to personal preference though. The flamed Koa top was a $500 upcharge and it wasn't meant to look understated lol, I just got a particularly bland top. I knew that was a possibility going in, and the gentleman on the phone also said that it would be safer shooting out an extra couple hundred to guarantee a perfect piece, but I couldn't afford it so I just went with the normal option. As well, Vaders with trems have a slight design overlook where when you're playing in classical position your knee is constantly against the trem, so any body movement whatsoever makes the trem wobble. I couldn't really find a solution to that, and I play in classical position, so I eventually sold it.
I do wish I still had a guitar that was of that quality though, even if the top was a little plain it was undeniably a gorgeous, perfectly made guitar.
Whoman Bean
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It is time to change your nickname to Lord Vader then
Comfort in classical position is my #1 concern if I'm being honest. I've never been a "right leg" player. Most of the time I even play bass in classical position, as stupid as it is.
slim231990
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Mine are solid af man I hardly ever have to tune. Couple years ago I took my V7 trem from my 70 degree apartment on a 30 min bike trip to a jam session in 100 degree midwestern heat. Thing was perfectly in tune when I made it to the doom garage. Lmao I was shocked. Stayed in tune the whole during the whole 2 hr jam session. Also the bike was an old GT RTS-1 if there's any other MTB nerds reading this. Man I'm such a 90's kid still to this day.
Well I hope you get comfortable with compliments soon because you're really good at playing guitar, man. Sorry to continue contributing to your discomfort.
spudmunkey
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narad
Progressive metal and politics
This is not a nuanced situation.
slim231990
Areola51
Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love......
Lord Voldemort
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It's generated over 30 forum pages of conversation.
Setting the neck as OG OP describes in his first post is a common procedure I have seen suggested, even around here, to get the best engagement between neck and pocket. On guitars with a full pocket you can loosen the neck bolts, tune it, and then tighten the neck bolts- but it won't work on JEM (or Vanquish, lol) style routes where the neck humbucker shares the same route as the pocket. Obviously. This is not a flaw, OG OP ordered the wrong guitar to pull this shit on and should have understood why instantly. He still didn't "rip the neck off" first thing, or at all, though.
Reading it again. it still sounds like they gave him long shaft tuners when he needed short, there's really nothing else to infer from his account. The exact language used by Kiesel in explaining the fix may or may not be embellished, at least with all parties being equally suspect. I have no idea what length tuners that model uses.
The input jack issue is something we each can hit with our purses and fix in two minutes. Shoddy, but not the end of the world. OP OG cries about it before sending the guitar back, it returns with it still loose, he shrugs it off (lol).
Seems like he was indexing the neck relief by the strings, on unstable tuners which shouldn't matter too much- but fuck knows, and the truss rod was maxed out. Kiesel states a locating pin was installed and reset of the neck done, implying again there was something wrong or lacking in the original state.
My opinion is that OG OP is a tool, but the guitar did survive him and Kiesel to end up in working order some-fucking-how before it got to OP LV. I sincerely doubt both former parties can escape criticism in reality, but who knows. Glad it's a good guitar today.
Reading it again. it still sounds like they gave him long shaft tuners when he needed short, there's really nothing else to infer from his account. The exact language used by Kiesel in explaining the fix may or may not be embellished, at least with all parties being equally suspect. I have no idea what length tuners that model uses.
The input jack issue is something we each can hit with our purses and fix in two minutes. Shoddy, but not the end of the world. OP OG cries about it before sending the guitar back, it returns with it still loose, he shrugs it off (lol).
Seems like he was indexing the neck relief by the strings, on unstable tuners which shouldn't matter too much- but fuck knows, and the truss rod was maxed out. Kiesel states a locating pin was installed and reset of the neck done, implying again there was something wrong or lacking in the original state.
My opinion is that OG OP is a tool, but the guitar did survive him and Kiesel to end up in working order some-fucking-how before it got to OP LV. I sincerely doubt both former parties can escape criticism in reality, but who knows. Glad it's a good guitar today.
narad
Progressive metal and politics
You've been a member here 10+ years, so I know you can't believe that pages generated is a function of degrees of nuance on the topic.
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