Nolly signature "Polymath" BKPs

[Hoss632]

Awesome, I'm very happy to have been of help!

Would you say the Polymath is mainly voiced for lower tunings? Or would it sound good in tunings like Drop C# and Eb standard? Tonally for me I lean more towards the heavier side of pop punk and hard rock (like tremonti and Tony from Godsmack).

 

[Emperoff]

Location: Spain

Are people really not considering what importing fairy dust adds to the cost, or that where they live makes that difference?

Are people just making blank assumptions based on country of residence?

The UK is not in EU, so EU dealers are also subject to VAT (extra 21% in my case) when importing these. Same as with Duncan, Dimarzio or whatever. BTW, the website I linked is german.

So what's your point, exactly?

 

[A.JohnHayes]

Would you say the Polymath is mainly voiced for lower tunings? Or would it sound good in tunings like Drop C# and Eb standard? Tonally for me I lean more towards the heavier side of pop punk and hard rock (like tremonti and Tony from Godsmack).

I know Nolly is a big Andy Timmons fan and plays in drop C# a lot, so I'd say you're good there!

In Polymath-related news, I just opted for them in a Mayones that I'm ordering that's 27" for drop C. I'll let you all know how they are in April when I've paid the thing off!

 

[ScottThunes1960]

what's your point, exactly?

Apologies, sir - I typed that post in a hurry, and see now that it reads like I was somehow trying to contradict you. I was agreeing with you and quoting your post to point out that many of the posters complaining about price differences seem to have forgotten that they happen to live in one of the two countries these brands are being manufactured in; and aren’t considering that buyers in non-US/UK states are dealing with end-prices dictated by import overhead, rather than just BKP “fairy dust.”

 

[STRHelvete]

Can we move on from people trying to justify not buying things they can't easily afford?

It's what? 200 bucks? Not exactly a king's ransom, just ridiculously priced for a pickup.

 

[narad]

It's what? 200 bucks? Not exactly a king's ransom, just ridiculously priced for a pickup.

It is high for a pickup, and I'm sure that's going to prevent a lot of people from making the leap. No way I'm buying a full set before I test a guitar with them and I'd be skeptical I'd find reason to justify it. But I just find it odd that anyone would be using the logic of some SDs being $50 cheaper to justify not purchasing some pickup that they've never tried before. If you try it and think it's not worth the $50, by all means, but obviously right now you don't have any interesting basis for comparison. This is like the pickup version of "Green Eggs & Ham".

 

[STRHelvete]

It is high for a pickup, and I'm sure that's going to prevent a lot of people from making the leap. No way I'm buying a full set before I test a guitar with them and I'd be skeptical I'd find reason to justify it. But I just find it odd that anyone would be using the logic of some SDs being $50 cheaper to justify not purchasing some pickup that they've never tried before. If you try it and think it's not worth the $50, by all means, but obviously right now you don't have any interesting basis for comparison. This is like the pickup version of "Green Eggs & Ham".

If a cheaper, more accessible pickup does the job at a fraction of the price then it works.

Pickups are often the "new shiny thing" when they're a small part in the overall chain. I find it extremely improbable that the 200+ dollar pickup is somehow going to give me something I can't get from cheaper alternatives. There are a million pickup brands and the boutique "this guy has'em so it'll help me" thing one tends to grow out of after a certain point. I don't need to try an ultra expensive pickup when what I have is perfect for the job..so already that pickup isn't anything close to worth the money.

 

[narad]

If a cheaper, more accessible pickup does the job at a fraction of the price then it works.

Pickups are often the "new shiny thing" when they're a small part in the overall chain. I find it extremely improbable that the 200+ dollar pickup is somehow going to give me something I can't get from cheaper alternatives. There are a million pickup brands and the boutique "this guy has'em so it'll help me" thing one tends to grow out of after a certain point. I don't need to try an ultra expensive pickup when what I have is perfect for the job..so already that pickup isn't anything close to worth the money.

I don't want to "cool story, bro" you, especially since this is the Nolly thread and not the Misha thread. But what you're doing is basically the same as me going onto the Lamborghini forums (a car I have no experience with) and saying, "My Honda Civic works for me! Don't need no over-priced sci-fi car!" Like if what works for you works so well you don't even feel like there's value in trying new things, like... what do you want?

 

[STRHelvete]

I don't want to "cool story, bro" you, especially since this is the Nolly thread and not the Misha thread. But what you're doing is basically the same as me going onto the Lamborghini forums (a car I have no experience with) and saying, "My Honda Civic works for me! Don't need no over-priced sci-fi car!" Like if what works for you works so well you don't even feel like there's value in trying new things, like... what do you want?

I showed up to check out the new pickup, read about it, then saw the price and laughed. This isn't a luxury car vs a civic. SDs and BKP are both great quality. BKP isn’t a luxury brand, just boutique and touted as amazing, as expensive relatively inaccessible gear is...the fact that you keep trying to suggest it's something special proves the point.

Beyond all that, it's a different opinion. It's okay. It won't hurt you.

 

[narad]

BKP isn’t a luxury brand, just boutique and touted as amazing, as expensive relatively inaccessible gear is...the fact that you keep trying to suggest it's something special proves the point.

That I think BKP are "something special" is going to be a hard sell -- I've been chronically underwhelmed by them and basically swapped out all my guitars that came with BKP sets for EMGs. I think they're different, as they're obviously made in different ways.

So I'm just trying to appeal to the commonsense notion that you don't know what you're missing if you've never tried it. And arguing about how two things compare when you only know one of them is a pretty logically weak place to be standing. Pretty innocuous and objective statements. In that sense, it would be super great (I think) to not spend forever talking about whether people can be equally happy paying $50 less for SDs when no one even has the pickups...

 

[STRHelvete]

That I think BKP are "something special" is going to be a hard sell -- I've been chronically underwhelmed by them and basically swapped out all my guitars that came with BKP sets for EMGs. I think they're different, as they're obviously made in different ways.

So I'm just trying to appeal to the commonsense notion that you don't know what you're missing if you've never tried it. And arguing about how two things compare when you only know one of them is a pretty logically weak place to be standing. Pretty innocuous and objective statements. In that sense, it would be super great (I think) to not spend forever talking about whether people can be equally happy paying $50 less for SDs when no one even has the pickups...

It's not that serious. Basic comment "I'm not pressed for super expensive pickups when I found what works and it's a lot cheaper".
No one is spending forever dwelling on it but you. A statement was made..that's it

 

[IwantTacos]

It's not that serious. Basic comment "I'm not pressed for super expensive pickups when I found what works and it's a lot cheaper".
No one is spending forever dwelling on it but you. A statement was made..that's it

Cool story bro

that’s as relevant as saying that I’m probably not going to get these anytime soon because I already have like 3000 dollars worth of pickups just laying around.

 

[DeathByButterslax]

How many pages of “too expensive” can we get to

 

[FitRocker33]

I’m banking on this thread diverting into a “fortin sucks” thread somewhere in the next couple of pages..I’ll be waiting

 

[TheBolivianSniper]

I’m banking on this thread diverting into a “fortin sucks” thread somewhere in the next couple of pages..I’ll be waiting

just heard a cali demo and it was some of the worst shit I've ever heard, I can't stand the plugins either, they just sound like twangy thin garbage


fortin sucks



am I doing it right

 

[STRHelvete]

just heard a cali demo and it was some of the worst shit I've ever heard, I can't stand the plugins either, they just sound like twangy thin garbage


fortin sucks



am I doing it right

I mean....you ain't wrong. I remember when they were the holy grail around here, now I never hear anything about them

 

[FitRocker33]

And nearly two years after its release the evil pumpkin production amp still hasn’t made its way into anybody’s hands other than killertone…epic fail

 

[BigViolin]

Meh. I'd buy one if they were $250.

 

[profwoot]

Ay I buy entirely too many plugins but I still find myself keeping fortin cali on "rhythm gtr L".

("rhythm gtr R" is currently the STL purple nightmare but PA's engl savage 120 is giving it a run for its money, so my tone's a little bit djenty)

 

[teqnick]

Waiting for any opinion on the actual characteristics of this pickup is like waiting for Goku to transform to the next level of super saiyan.