spudmunkey
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I don't know the answer to your question, but as someone who doesn't know anything about this stuff, I'm often surprised to find out that so many seemingly simple control schemes require a "super switch".
Pickup Color Codes and Diagrams - for all Humbuckers
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I don't know the answer to your question, but as someone who doesn't know anything about this stuff, I'm often surprised to find out that so many seemingly simple control schemes require a "super switch".
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
Even with the super switch, I'm not seeing position 3 as possible.
jarledge
Well-Known Member
if you have a little time, i'll see if i can do a diagram with this wiring. What pickups do they have/plan on using ?
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jarledge
Well-Known Member
this will work, you may not need a mega-switch to do it but it seems like the easiest option.
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
I'll see if I can source a mega switch locally.
Thanks so much!
Thanks so much!
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
Is the Purple the ground?
jarledge
Well-Known Member
no the purple/blue is the hot connection out of the switch. the zero (0) lugs are the always on. each one of the 4 poles has a zero lug and by connecting them together you are connecting the poles. so it goes pole 1 = top left , pole 2 = bottom left, pole 3 = top right, pole 4 = bottom right.
each number 1-5 corresponds to the switch position. so switch position 1 = lug 1 on pole 1,2,3,4. and position 2 = lug 2 on pole 1,2,3,4. and so on.
i left pole 1 empty, so the zero lug doesn't need to get connected to the other zero lugs.
each number 1-5 corresponds to the switch position. so switch position 1 = lug 1 on pole 1,2,3,4. and position 2 = lug 2 on pole 1,2,3,4. and so on.
i left pole 1 empty, so the zero lug doesn't need to get connected to the other zero lugs.
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
I'll give it a try, thanks so much!
jarledge
Well-Known Member
no worries, let me know how it goes.
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
FWIW, this is the switch that I have. https://www.allparts.com/products/ep-0078-4-pole-5-way-oak-grisby-super-switch
I presume the gap between the main group of terminals is of no significance, & just go with the number of terminals per side, correct?
I presume the gap between the main group of terminals is of no significance, & just go with the number of terminals per side, correct?
jarledge
Well-Known Member
yes, the zero terminals are a little further down then the groups of 1-5. it should all lay out the same way. Just take a multi meter and double check the 1 position and 5 position to make sure you put the switch in the right way around (continuity check between the zero and 1 pole). I just put one in one of my guitars and put it in backwards, and the switch doesn't fit the other way so i have to eventually redo it.
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
Thanks so much!
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
All correct as you displayed with the following exception, scoot the entire 3 terminal connections for the bridge p/u to the left just one position and it's dead on. The only anomaly I've encountered with the customer's desired wire scheme is that when the #3 (center) position is selected to get the bridge & neck pickup together, they are out of phase with one another. Now my concern is that if I flip the phase on either the neck or bridge pickups, the same result will take place in positions 2 & 4.
I'm gonna share my results with the customer before changing anything.
I'm gonna share my results with the customer before changing anything.
jarledge
Well-Known Member
the phase issue might be tough what pickups do you they have ? is the middle a true single coil or stacked ?
i could probably come up with a wiring scenario where the phase for neck or bridge is flipped in position 3 but it would take me a little bit of time to work it out.
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
Thay are true single coils bu https://mcnellypickups.com, but I realized upon final inspection I had a grounding issue going on & all seems normal now. All buttoned up, dropped off, & invoiced!
He custom hand winds any pickup into a soap-bar p-90 and the customer had them wound as Jazzmaster (Neck), Stratocaster (Middle), Telecaster (Bridge).
It's a custom Warmoth build, via a local retail chain. Since it's not a direct customer of mine, I have an agreement with this resource to not share pics of jobs done through them publicly, I only post my own direct customers, otherwise I'd be glad to post it, turned out really nice. Also has a Gretcsh style "Mud Switch" on the lower horn, with the 5-Way one the upper horn.
Thanks again for your help.
He custom hand winds any pickup into a soap-bar p-90 and the customer had them wound as Jazzmaster (Neck), Stratocaster (Middle), Telecaster (Bridge).
It's a custom Warmoth build, via a local retail chain. Since it's not a direct customer of mine, I have an agreement with this resource to not share pics of jobs done through them publicly, I only post my own direct customers, otherwise I'd be glad to post it, turned out really nice. Also has a Gretcsh style "Mud Switch" on the lower horn, with the 5-Way one the upper horn.
Thanks again for your help.
jarledge
Well-Known Member
awesome, and no worries. Happy to help.
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
Now I've got another unique customer request.
I have a customer who has a super strat guitar (old Kramer) in an HxH config that had a 3 way LP style toggle.
He routed a center pickup route and installed a standard single coil, no making it an HSH config, with a single volume, tone & 3 way toggle.
He wants it wired as follows:
/ = Bridge humbucker by itself.
I = Center Single Coil & Neck humbucker
\ = Neck humbucker by itself
I know that the best option would be to use EP1112 5-way blade switch & to route accordingly for it, but he is dead set on a 3 way toggle.
Would Dimarzio's EP1111 (JPM) work for this, and if so, would you have an appropriate wire diagram?
The humbuckers are PAF Pro's, center SC is a standard 2 conductor.
Short of this, I found the Freeway switch at Stew Mac, but to install it would require more routing on this guitar as the toggle switch location is right up against the cavity wall.
I also bought one of these this week, and still for the life of me can't figure out any other connections other than the ground and the bridge hot.
https://reverb.com/item/17784073-switchcraft-3-way-toggle-switch-for-3-pickup-les-paul-nickel
I have a customer who has a super strat guitar (old Kramer) in an HxH config that had a 3 way LP style toggle.
He routed a center pickup route and installed a standard single coil, no making it an HSH config, with a single volume, tone & 3 way toggle.
He wants it wired as follows:
/ = Bridge humbucker by itself.
I = Center Single Coil & Neck humbucker
\ = Neck humbucker by itself
I know that the best option would be to use EP1112 5-way blade switch & to route accordingly for it, but he is dead set on a 3 way toggle.
Would Dimarzio's EP1111 (JPM) work for this, and if so, would you have an appropriate wire diagram?
The humbuckers are PAF Pro's, center SC is a standard 2 conductor.
Short of this, I found the Freeway switch at Stew Mac, but to install it would require more routing on this guitar as the toggle switch location is right up against the cavity wall.
I also bought one of these this week, and still for the life of me can't figure out any other connections other than the ground and the bridge hot.
https://reverb.com/item/17784073-switchcraft-3-way-toggle-switch-for-3-pickup-les-paul-nickel
TonyFlyingSquirrel
Cherokee Warrior
Steve Blucher at Dimarzio to the rescue, sent me a wire diagram for EP1111!
