simonpimonpoo
Active Member
Hello! I haven't really been part of any of the discussions in this part of the forum but since it seems like there are different viewpoints here it would be interesting with this type of discussion.
What is the nation state to you? What do you think of nationalism?
What do you think of the attempt to destroy the nation state and the type of governance that is in the process of being implemented in its place?
I realize that the majority of you are probably americans and the political climate over there is probably a bit different.
In European political circles there is a belief that the nation state must be destroyed and supranational governance in the form of the European Union should take its place to ensure eternal peace. This idea took form after the 2 big wars that completely destroyed the continent.
At least this is how you would interpret it if you want to give the politicians the benefit of the doubt and don't assume that their actions are malevolent.
My viewpoint is that the nation state is the form of governance expressed by the people of a nation and to deny them the right of their nation state is like denying them the right to self determination:
"The right of a people to self-determination is a cardinal principle in modern international law (commonly regarded as a jus cogens rule), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter's norms.[1][2] It states that a people, based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no interference.[3]"
- quote from wiki.
The tactics used by the political elite to destroy the nation state is as I previously expressed supra-national entities such as the EU but also mass-migration in en effort to erase national identities.
I believe this to be an attack on human sovereignty, basic human freedom and the ability to choose our own destiny.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
What is the nation state to you? What do you think of nationalism?
What do you think of the attempt to destroy the nation state and the type of governance that is in the process of being implemented in its place?
I realize that the majority of you are probably americans and the political climate over there is probably a bit different.
In European political circles there is a belief that the nation state must be destroyed and supranational governance in the form of the European Union should take its place to ensure eternal peace. This idea took form after the 2 big wars that completely destroyed the continent.
At least this is how you would interpret it if you want to give the politicians the benefit of the doubt and don't assume that their actions are malevolent.
My viewpoint is that the nation state is the form of governance expressed by the people of a nation and to deny them the right of their nation state is like denying them the right to self determination:
"The right of a people to self-determination is a cardinal principle in modern international law (commonly regarded as a jus cogens rule), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter's norms.[1][2] It states that a people, based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no interference.[3]"
- quote from wiki.
The tactics used by the political elite to destroy the nation state is as I previously expressed supra-national entities such as the EU but also mass-migration in en effort to erase national identities.
I believe this to be an attack on human sovereignty, basic human freedom and the ability to choose our own destiny.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
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