The Laney Ironheart Owners Thread

[minusnine]

Hey guys! Maybe you could give me some advice
I'm about to buy an Ironheart, but I don't know if I should go for the 60w or 120w version
I currently own a Valveking 112 50w combo. I'm doing some small gigs at the moment, and am having problems hearing myself when playing live, plus it's distortion is a little thin.
Are the IRT60H and IRT120H tonally different?
I like to crank up the volume to get a more aggressive tone, my guess is that the 120 would give me some trouble, since I always get my amp mic'd. I would have to put the volume up to a point where the mic is gonna compress as hell... right?
Could getting the 60 watts version and a bigger cab solve my hearing problem?
Say, the IRT60H plus an Orange Ppc-212ob 2x12 120 watts cab for example?
Sorry if I'm making any stupid assumptions, it's my first time moving from a combo to a head/cab

 

[Fretless]

It could be how you position your cabs. Has your band tried reversing your cabs so they face behind the band? I was doing this with my band in hawaii, and we found we competed less for volume and space, and we're able get more satisfied results from the crowd.

 

[Fretless]

I got my IRT today! First thing I did was hook it up to my kemper and boy was I not disappointed. I was able to nail a tone that I am genuinely happy with in about 10 minutes. Very flexible unit that I am going to be loving to play with in the coming years.

 

[skydizzle]

No difference tonally, just power. I've used both but usually use the 60 Watt version just to drive the power section a little more.

Here's the rig I just used for Bloodstock Open Air 2014.

That's one hell of a rig!

 

[RickyCigs]

So, this may be something that I'll have to figure out/answer for myself, but has anyone tried modifying the onboard boost? I hate what it does as it is, but I'm pretty sure some small modifications could make it very handy.

My amp was a little too expensive to start going crazy inside of it though. I had considered building an overdrive right into it, but I never leave the house with my rig so it isn't worth risking lol I guess I'll just have to build myself a rackmount overdrive.

Thanks for reigniting my GAS Fretless

 

[Fretless]

So, this may be something that I'll have to figure out/answer for myself, but has anyone tried modifying the onboard boost? I hate what it does as it is, but I'm pretty sure some small modifications could make it very handy.

My amp was a little too expensive to start going crazy inside of it though. I had considered building an overdrive right into it, but I never leave the house with my rig so it isn't worth risking lol I guess I'll just have to build myself a rackmount overdrive.

Thanks for reigniting my GAS Fretless

I am probably one of the few who actually likes the way the boost on the IRT functions. Granted I use a JTV variax for the majority of the time and so it has weird interactions with all kinds of things that make it sound different.

For anyone interested in a Kemper profile of my IRT into Lasse Lammerts Mesa 4x12 cab, I have them now uploaded to the Kemper rig exchange under the names of IRT Studio Lead and IRT Studio Rhythm.

 

[RickyCigs]

I am probably one of the few who actually likes the way the boost on the IRT functions. Granted I use a JTV variax for the majority of the time and so it has weird interactions with all kinds of things that make it sound different.

For anyone interested in a Kemper profile of my IRT into Lasse Lammerts Mesa 4x12 cab, I have them now uploaded to the Kemper rig exchange under the names of IRT Studio Lead and IRT Studio Rhythm.

Is there a way to get that cab profile in wav format?

 

[Fretless]

Is there a way to get that cab profile in wav format?

I've been trying to find a way to do this for awhile. The only thing I can think of would be to get of those IR making programs. If I can get one of those then I'd just have to set it up to go via spdif and I'd have a very nicely timed and well preserved IR.

 

[RickyCigs]

I've been trying to find a way to do this for awhile. The only thing I can think of would be to get of those IR making programs. If I can get one of those then I'd just have to set it up to go via spdif and I'd have a very nicely timed and well preserved IR.

Well I would like to have it if you pull it off. There's a discount in it for you lol

 

[Toshiro]

So, this may be something that I'll have to figure out/answer for myself, but has anyone tried modifying the onboard boost? I hate what it does as it is, but I'm pretty sure some small modifications could make it very handy.

My amp was a little too expensive to start going crazy inside of it though. I had considered building an overdrive right into it, but I never leave the house with my rig so it isn't worth risking lol I guess I'll just have to build myself a rackmount overdrive.

Thanks for reigniting my GAS Fretless

With the micro components and the way the board is laid out, I gave up on modding the boost at first glance. This is the area of the board, which has a metal cover, where the boost is:

Easier to run an external one, IMO.

 

[Pandamidian]

I'm having this "issue" with my amp, I'm wondering if its something I can fix, the way i have it EQ'ed or something else. The issue is the channel volume for all three channels seems to become unbearably garbled after 6/7 limiting me to only using 60%-65% of the volume of the amp, and at band practice sometimes I need a bit more volume. Is this typical of this amp? All the guitars I use are active pickup equipped guitars. Does not seem to matter if the "Watts" control is 1 Watt or 60 Watts, I get the same Garbled mess after 65%. Headroom issue? I have swapped some tubes thinking it might of been that (V4 Preamp with a 12AX7 LPS, and I'm running EL34L's). Any tips on what might be my issue? Thanks!

 

[nlaplante]

Headroom. The 120w might have more. Try a lower gain tube in the phase inverter maybe?

 

[Pandamidian]

I thought the 12ax7 lps would be lower...anyone tried a 12a7t yet??

 

[nlaplante]

The LPS is rather high gain. You would have to downgrade tube model. 12AT7 would be better suited I think.

 

[Pandamidian]

ill give that a shot thanks! i bought 3 lps tubes, but they seem like they may not be suitable for guitar amp applications? The tubes i have to choose from current are 3 ruby 12ax7ac5, 3 GT 12ax7LPS and a TAD ECC83. How of these which are the highest gain tubes?

 

[nlaplante]

Those are perfectly fine tubes. Well suited for guitar application. But in your case you want to increase headroom, so by putting a lower gain tube in the phase inverter you reduce the signal level sent from the preamp to the power amp, thus reducing power tube saturation.

Also, I think that at very high channel volumes, the phase interver tube might start to overdrive too.

 

[Toshiro]

Down the road, think about running 6L6s, because they break up later, and you might be able to squeeze a bit more headroom out of the amp.

Are you using the boost? If so, try with it off. I get some weird clipping with it, especially with high output pickups.

 

[nlaplante]

The onboard boost is not well suited to active pups imho. It reacts much better to with passives. With actives, I never run it above 3 (9 o'clock). With actives, it's generally on 5 (12 o'clock) for metal.

 

[Pandamidian]

Just tried 3 different 12at7's same results, i used a fulltone OCD, same result with it off. I Don't use the on-board boost, cannot stand it lol. I guess its just because its a 60 watt head, cannot turn it up past 6ish unless i want garble

 

[Toshiro]

Just tried 3 different 12at7's same results, i used a fulltone OCD, same result with it off. I Don't use the on-board boost, cannot stand it lol. I guess its just because its a 60 watt head, cannot turn it up past 6ish unless i want garble

This weekend, when the neighbors are out, I'll do some tests with my 60H. I usually leave the channel volumes on 4 though, and use the watts for volume, so I've never encountered this.