Urgent Wireless recommendation

[UltimaWeapon]

Hi. This might be a little embarrassing
I have (or had) a G30 relay... the battery door broke like 2y ago and i still kept it. I used a rubber band with duck tape to keep that door closed, but after todays rehearsal it started to blink all colors and wasnt reliable... so i smashed it to the ground
I wanted to buy a Sennheiser XSW-D or save a little more to get the Shure GLXD16+ ,but the time is running out and no local dealer has it directly in the store.
The thing is.. Tomorrow we are going to play a summer festival and need a wireless for the stage. Only few options are avaialble for take away from the local shop.
JOYO JW-03 (2,4ghz) or the JOYO JW-02 (5.8ghz). Its a temporary solution and even might take em back to the store right after... Wich would you recommend? The reviews are pretty confusing.

 

[budda]

Pretty sure blinking colours means something according to the manual..

Festival? 20ft cable and go. Better safe than sorry.

 

[UltimaWeapon]

Blinking meant that it lost connection because the battery door was loose and on the transmitter went 1 bar out of 3 even with fresh batteries. I cant rely on that system anymore.
i always use a backup cable ready to go near my helix. Because i had to

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

I've had one of those cheapo wireless dongles and they definitely sound great, but I've noticed that they tend to have the occasional artifact, kinda like using a pitch shifter that's on 24/7. Plus I'm not sure how they'd handle a festival environment.

 

[UltimaWeapon]

I've had one of those cheapo wireless dongles and they definitely sound great, but I've noticed that they tend to have the occasional artifact, kinda like using a pitch shifter that's on 24/7. Plus I'm not sure how they'd handle a festival environment.

Thats the real question... most reviews i read are like - "Yeah it works great though bedroom and kitchen with wifi router in the living room on...."

 

[SamSam]

With the amount of other signals and the like surrounding a festival stage I'm not sure if I would personally trust the Joyo units. Perhaps someone here has tried them in that scenario?

The cheaper units are great for home and small stages, the higher end stuff tends to show it's strength on the bigger stages.

 

[UltimaWeapon]

Thats the real question... most reviews i read are like - "Yeah it works great though bedroom and kitchen with wifi router in the living room on...."

With the amount of other signals and the like surrounding a festival stage I'm not sure if I would personally trust the Joyo units. Perhaps someone here has tried them in that scenario?

The cheaper units are great for home and small stages, the higher end stuff tends to show it's strength on the bigger stages.

I know... the G30 had its own issues too. On one occasion i couldnt use it on any selected channel... even on RF1 or RF2 setting. Ill wait for a response till morning (since here its 1am now) and if nobody will know the answer ill try the 5,8ghz (JOYO JW-02) option maybe since the 2,4 is crowded as hell. And let you guys know if it will handle the open air stage.

 

[SamSam]

I have gigged (on smaller stages) both the Sennheiser XSW-D or the Shure GLXD16+ and have never come across a single issue with either unit in these situations. However, conversely a band we did a few gigs with recently, both the bassist and guitarist were using dual dongle style wireless systems without any issues at all. But we are talking small club level gigs here.

 

[TedEH]

If this was urgent, it probably would have been a better idea to troubleshoot before smashing your existing solution. Taking on a new gear solution the day before a festival is going to be a risk no matter what you chose to do. Sounds like you need a long cable and some impulse control.

 

[tedtan]

I can vouch for the Shure GLX-whatever, but short term I agree with the others: just get a 20 foot cable and call it good for now and order the Shure or Sennheiser for future use.

 

[fabronaut]

I have one of those affordable Joyo wireless units. the noise floor is significantly higher and the interference will be even worse with more equipment around. the latency is okay.
that said, "might work" isn't good enough for a paid gig. not even close. you are almost certainly going to have a very bad time if you try to play that on a festival stage.

assuming you're in the US, there are reasons for proper wireless units costing more -- namely, reliability and basic compliance with wireless standards as set out by the FCC. it's critical to be able to test the relative interference on the channel(s) you want to use and pick the one with the best signal stability. pretty sure you can't do anything like that on a 2.4 GHz (or whatever it is) unit intended for home / practice use, as the circuitry and design aren't capable.

my expectations typically scale with price, and for the ~$50 CAD I paid for the Joyo to mess around within 10 ft of an amp in my bedroom with one less cable, it's fine. it also picks up a ridiculous amount of interference / noise from my computer, the silly dimmer switch in a lamp I was given, etc. still, I figure it's gotta be a least somewhat comparable to retail markup on basic units up to around the $250 threshold here, which IIRC is what the true entry level wireless systems start at here.

"good enough for home use near the wifi router etc." is an apples to oranges scenario. you can take a stab at renting and setting up a proper wireless base station from a pro audio shop if you absolutely have to have one ASAP and can't figure out which one to buy / budget doesn't allow for that. otherwise, the best solution is the simplest -- use a decent cable.

edit: just saw that OP's post for "tomorrow" was a few days ago? meh. maybe someone finds the general info useful.

 

[UltimaWeapon]

Call me a madman or the first idiot to do a festival gig with the cheap 40e JOYO JW03
Had a backup cable just in case and I survived!

 

[fabronaut]

Call me a madman or the first idiot to do a festival gig with the cheap 40e JOYO JW03
Had a backup cable just in case and I survived!

right on. glad it worked out for you! and more importantly -- you had a backup plan / safety net, just in case.

the tech is getting better / cheaper all the time and Joyo makes some solid kit. I've got a couple of their clone pedals, and it's a nice way to see if I like a "flavour" before splurging on the real thing.

I find the adage "you get what you pay for" with technology often comes down to how easy it is to fix when things go awry and how user friendly it is to set up, reconfigure, and manage. (usually for the same reasons.)

 

[UltimaWeapon]

right on. glad it worked out for you! and more importantly -- you had a backup plan / safety net, just in case.

the tech is getting better / cheaper all the time and Joyo makes some solid kit. I've got a couple of their clone pedals, and it's a nice way to see if I like a "flavour" before splurging on the real thing.

I find the adage "you get what you pay for" with technology often comes down to how easy it is to fix when things go awry and how user friendly it is to set up, reconfigure, and manage. (usually for the same reasons.)

I was worried dont wanna lie... but the range was awesome and no dropouts at all. It worked. I´ll keep it as a backup for sure. But still want to buy that senheiser or the shure Glxd just to be sure later... this saved the performance