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There you go OP :lol:





And this absolute gem:



Butthole Bandit:

Oh shit look out there's a bandit on the loose
Looking for the loose
Searching the the gaping star of desire
I see your shit, it makes me water
The bigger the shit, the harder i become
I prowl the night looking for the perfect turd
I have that shit sense, that shit sense dimension
When you wake up and your butthole's sore
The reason why is cuz i stole your shit
That festering poop inside yer intestines
I reach up your butthole
No turd can escape when im on the loose



If this ain't good enough for you I don't know what is.
 

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A few bands that spring in mind are:
- Immolation (mostly anti religion thematology)
- Aborted (Cenobite themed so men and women get mangled)
- Cephalic Carnage. Cephalic Carnage have some more prog elements but I would characterize them as more brutal than tech death metal.
- Benediction but not sure how brutal it is considered.
- Monstrosity is great but not sure if it brutal enough or maybe it's a bit too techy?
- Job For A Cowboy for albums Ruination and Demonocracy will be more Death Metal with Demonocracy being a bit more "techy" but not actually considered Tech Death.
 

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Incinerate maybe? I don't think their lyrics are rapey afaik. They're more tech than brutal death but it's not far off. Their new album is pretty cool
 

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I feel like majority of metal/heavy lyrics are incredibly immature and often about nothing that matters and isnt even a personal expereince of anyone in the band or rely on being "conseptual" or fictional or even worse some bands act like their lyrics are written to teach you
 

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It's sad to see people bashing OP in this thread.

I'm a big fan of BDM, but I'm also not particularly enthralled with most of the lyrics. If anything, I just wish there was more variety. And I do love horror, but let's not pretend the genre of horror is always equal to gore, violence, and rape. There are all kinds of horror (movies, books, art, etc.) aside from slashers. Vampires, witches, aliens, Satan, Godzilla, ancient Egyptian curses, dystopian futures...


I agree that non-slasher horror is underrepresented in BDM, but also just any other topic. I'm a huge fan of Nile for decades now, and I like how Dying Fetus switched to an anti-war political message.


Where's the Satanist BDM? Where's the witch BDM? Where's the sci-fi BDM? We can find plenty of examples in regular ol death metal, or especially we can find sci-fi themed technical death metal, but somehow BDM gets constantly tied up in this gore trope.


Anyway OP, here's something that's in a very polar opposite way anti-misogyny. I'm not even sure how much I agree with its anti-pornography message, but at least it's not another tired out story of raping a dead woman.

 

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It's sad to see people bashing OP in this thread.

I'm a big fan of BDM, but I'm also not particularly enthralled with most of the lyrics. If anything, I just wish there was more variety. And I do love horror, but let's not pretend the genre of horror is always equal to gore, violence, and rape. There are all kinds of horror (movies, books, art, etc.) aside from slashers. Vampires, witches, aliens, Satan, Godzilla, ancient Egyptian curses, dystopian futures...


I agree that non-slasher horror is underrepresented in BDM, but also just any other topic. I'm a huge fan of Nile for decades now, and I like how Dying Fetus switched to an anti-war political message.


Where's the Satanist BDM? Where's the witch BDM? Where's the sci-fi BDM? We can find plenty of examples in regular ol death metal, or especially we can find sci-fi themed technical death metal, but somehow BDM gets constantly tied up in this gore trope.


Anyway OP, here's something that's in a very polar opposite way anti-misogyny. I'm not even sure how much I agree with its anti-pornography message, but at least it's not another tired out story of raping a dead woman.


Good point, when you put it that way then there isn't as much variety as I thought. Adding to what you already said: I'd love some Lovecraftian BDM.
 

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...in which:

1. Does not have any songs with lyrics about misogyny/rape/sexual deviance in any of their songs
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2. Is not a tech-death band

I like the riffage and brutal drumming of a lot of brutal death metal bands, but then I read the lyrics and song titles, and seriously, that puts me off completely. I try and find some bands where I can get the same music and similar riffage, but every time, every band seems to have very misogynistic gore/rape lyrics in every song and are full of misogynistic slurs. That's very off-putting to me.

When I've asked people elsewhere, people are either real pricks who laugh at me, or they suggest a bunch of technical death metal bands instead. And much of the time, it's not even brutal death metal/technical death metal hybrid bands like Abnormality, Hideous Divinity, or Cytotoxin, but some of the mildest sounding technical death metal bands. So please, fans of brutal death metal, help someone like me out.

So I want the fans of brutal death metal here to suggest the most brutal death metal that you can think of that doesn't have the lyrical tropes that I find so problematic. No shock value misogyny/rape lyrics, sexual violence, and preferably no gore lyrics if possible (but more about that below).

1. Please do not reply with any comments like "Who cares what the lyrics are? You can barely make out what most of them are saying, anyway!" or "Just don't read the lyrics!" (the latter makes it almost impossible considering the song titles a lot of bands have)

2. Do NOT post any technical death metal bands. Don't post anything like Origin, Archspire, Arkaik, or any of those other tech-death bands, or any bands that sound like them. I'm not looking for technical death metal, I'm looking for brutal death metal.

3. Don't post Deeds of Flesh, Defeated Sanity, or Suffocation. Those bands are too well known, everyone who knows about brutal death metal knows these bands. For what it's worth, Suffocation are one of my favorite death metal bands. They have gore lyrics in many songs, but not all, and they're usually more psychological. Deeds of Flesh and Defeated Sanity are a little more messed up with their lyrical content in a lot of their songs, and for what it's worth, those two bands both "approach" the line for me with their content, but don't quite "cross" the line for me as a whole, whereas bands like Gorgasm go well over the line for me lyrically. Plus, they have songs with other lyrical topics as well. So I guess you can say it's not always the gore that's the issue with me, but more how it's presented and who it's presented towards. Plus, I don't recall any misogynistic slurs from Suffocation, Deeds of Flesh, and Defeated Sanity, even in their gorier songs.

4. Don't be a prick towards me if you don't like my question. If you have no problem with the misogyny in so many brutal death metal bands, that's your stance. I know it doesn't make you a misogynist for listening to them or anything. I am not trying to tell anyone what they can or can't listen to or get anyone canceled. I just wish it was easier to find brutal death metal that didn't have those lyrics. Helpful, beneficial replies only.
Nile. 110%
 

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I don't listen to a lot of BDM. Honestly, hard to read this thread and not think it refers to dance music.

Anata is one of the few death metal bands I really got into because they tied the brutal/melodic/tech line very well years before "tech death" really took off.



I really liked this album by Autumn Leaves

 

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LOL @ not thinking NILE is Tech Death

edit: but to be fair, half this thread is recommending them and other bands who are definitely on the tech side and acting like the OP wasn't asking for non-tech DM bands
Ok
 

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LOL @ not thinking NILE is Tech Death

edit: but to be fair, half this thread is recommending them and other bands who are definitely on the tech side and acting like the OP wasn't asking for non-tech DM bands
It's a difficult line to draw sometimes. Nile is old enough that people weren't really sub-sub-sub-genre-tizing things as technical, and bands that were called brutal death metal were like Cannibal Corpse and Suffo.

And are we gonna pretend that Defeated Sanity isn't technical as fuck? You ever try to play a song by them? It's nuts.


I think there is a difference between brutal death metal and technical death metal, but factors influencing the distinction are not always quantifiable, including but not limited to production, vocal style, and even "wave"/era.

I think I can hear when a band is pure tech death and not BDM, but let's not pretend these two sub-sub-sub-genres are as night and day different as, for example, black metal and deathcore.
 

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So, what exactly is the defining sound of Brutal Death Metal? This thread makes it sound cut and defined somewhere in the Goregasm area, but Nile has been tossed around a few times too. Those are drastically different bands.
 

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nile is a mix of many styles, like atmospheric parts, slower parts, technical stuff, various vocals, exotic solos etc
i wouldn't paint them as a pure brutal death metal band
and i wouldn't compare them to any other band, very unique
 
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