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I need wall hangers for .strandberg* guitars.

.strandberg* sells their own wall hanger design. Can anyone here comment on their quality/practicality? Do you own another wall hanger for headless that you prefer for your .strandberg*?

If you have an 8, they kinda fit a Hercules hanger, though you gotta put the guitar in sideways and then twist it to face more to the front. It is tight and compresses the foam, so idk about the long term durability of it, but does the job. I don't normally keep it there.

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I have heard that as well. I find it super beefy. I'll measure it next time I change the strings (which should be soon for that guitar), but I've found online that the thickness at the first fret is something like 22.6 mm. As I remember, the neck shape is proportionally the same as the 6 and 7 string variants. Like nothing special was done to accommodate the wider neck as far as I can tell (though I may be wrong). For that reason alone I'd love to try the Per Nilsson profile.

It could be a broader shouldered? 8 string would need some thickness (or carbon fibre stability rods) to handle the additional tension.
 

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You know... you've kind of hit the nail on the head, I think. Put my own feelings into words. For the first time in forever years I got together with a dude to jam. I brought my Boden 8 because the guy wants to create some super low tuned, heavy, slow, doomy vibes. The guitar did its job, but god I hated playing it. :lol: I think it's just because I am still too conscious that it is not a normal guitar. It's more comfortable in most regards (save for the neck), but it's just too different.

Regarding how they're cutting costs... I realize it's just a marketing post, but in the blurb on the announcement video on Instagram they say this:

I have a tendency to read into things too much sometimes, but that whole paragraph kinda tells me the whole story. Paying for the "design" aspect of things is... well, the R&D for these guitars has been done for a long time, imo. They haven't done anything in terms of innovation for a long time other than Ola trying whacky stuff like the titanium travel guitar. All they've really done is change minor specs, onboard artists, recycle material they would have had throw out otherwise, (i.e. the RESQD line) and probably some minor savings with the change in specs for the NX line (switch from flamed maple cap to veneer and no roasted maple), and probably minor-to-major savings on - oh, I don't know - shit quality control.

Ola owns the company, so he reinvests and pays himself whatever he wants (from full profits to nothing at all) after paying all company costs. They've also settled on a routine by now and seem to have stabilized their manufacturing to the Indonesian factory. They've probably been raking in quite a lot of cash for a while from those big margins, since we all know these guitars really aren't worth the asking price. (Particularly the more expensive models. Which, mind you, doesn't mean they are bad guitars... just priced way too highly.) Marketing seems to have been their main investment the last few years. They've built a very strong brand and have managed to move quite a lot of overpriced gear. In terms of branding and company identity, I really feel that they've basically become to the guitar industry what Apple and Nintendo are to the tech and gaming industries, respectively.

This probably all means that they either had a substantial amount of money set aside to invest in the Essential line or that they decided it was time to reduce their overall margins to sell more of the cheaper and more accessible stuff. In other words, strandberg as a company is probably perfectly positioned nowadays to start investing into economies of scale, and the Essential line may be just that. They have had great margins so far, a large and stable revenue stream, and probably a ton of cash sitting there ready to be invested. Honestly, in the end I don't think it has much to do with price of materials or features; that's just part of the overall equation.

Then again, as always, I am open to being wrong about all this. :lol: I have had a love/hate relationship with the company ever since I got my strandberg, partially because Ola has been ambitious enough to not mind sacrificing a few things that us diehard guitar nerds have strong feelings about, but also because I am allergic to blatant marketing.

Anyway, that's my late-night spiel. Excuse my insomnia.
I am convinced this is the Strandberg counteroffer for the Ibanez Q series and it was the one and only goal to land in the same price bracket.

Also has anyone noticed they dropped the zero fret on these? Curious if they will do that and use that hardware also on their other models.

The Meloria models look like Strandberg's most innovative thing in years but damn are they expensive for a travel guitar.
 

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I am convinced this is the Strandberg counteroffer for the Ibanez Q series and it was the one and only goal to land in the same price bracket.

Also has anyone noticed they dropped the zero fret on these? Curious if they will do that and use that hardware also on their other models.

The Meloria models look like Strandberg's most innovative thing in years but damn are they expensive for a travel guitar.

Not just Ibanez, but all of the AliExpress brands that have been pumping out decent-enough headless stuff as Strandberg has rested on their laurels for years and stagnated.

The Meloria is just the skeletonized travel guitar that's been available on Amazon for like $200 for years, which are just blatant Yamaha Silent Guitar knocks, but in the Strandberg outline.
 

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Not just Ibanez, but all of the AliExpress brands that have been pumping out decent-enough headless stuff as Strandberg has rested on their laurels for years and stagnated.

The Meloria is just the skeletonized travel guitar that's been available on Amazon for like $200 for years, which are just blatant Yamaha Silent Guitar knocks, but in the Strandberg outline.
I have bought Chinese crap once and would never do it again. But I would have bought an Ibanez Q series over a Strandberg any day. Now Strandberg is back as an option I would consider.
Are there many people really buying guitars on AliExpress? I think you can only do that if you have guitar repair as your hobby. Or are there any brands that do not require any work before I can properly play them?

You mean like Donner Hush? They don't look too bad actually. I would probably choose a Meloria over it if it were around 1k but with Strandberg wanting 4k I am now suddenly very interested in the Donner Hush I just learned exists.
 

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Okay I found one difference: The Strandberg Meloria allows taking the neck off and is then hand luggage size for air travel. The Donner Hush not it seems.
 

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Okay I found one difference: The Strandberg Meloria allows taking the neck off and is then hand luggage size for air travel. The Donner Hush not it seems.

For the price of the Meloria you could probably just throw the Donner out whenever you travel by air and buy a new one at your destination.
 

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For the price of the Meloria you could probably just throw the Donner out whenever you travel by air and buy a new one at your destination.
I can see their endorsed artists being happy to use it, the ones that do tour internationally besides being influencers. And then maybe the concept becomes popular and we get solid travel guitars in a price range somewhere in the middle of Strandberg and Aliexpress.
 

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Great travel guitars already exist, this is just for folks that like saying theirs was welded by Italian bicycle makers.
I do love nice bicycles but what travel guitars could you recommend? I would be in the market for one. Any type (nylon or electric), I am just looking for something to play on while traveling, where I have peace of mind that airlines won't stop me from taking the guitar with me on board.
 

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WTF. That Meloria with the regular pickups clocks in at 10.500 € :nuts::nuts: :nuts:
Must be a typo and it's actually 1050 €. That seems about right.

I think the wooden model must be great to make use of the leftovers from making other guitars. If you buy a plank intended for a normal guitar and cut out a normal Boden shape, surely there must be enough left for at least one Meloria body.
 

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I do love nice bicycles but what travel guitars could you recommend? I would be in the market for one. Any type (nylon or electric), I am just looking for something to play on while traveling, where I have peace of mind that airlines won't stop me from taking the guitar with me on board.

Depends on your budget. I have a couple Steinbergers, they're dirt cheap and just needed a good setup, because I wanted something I didn't have to worry about getting lost, stolen, or damaged.

Traveler makes some cool stuff too, I've taken their "Ultralight" series stuff traveling and didn't have any issues. Again, basic setup work and you're good to go.
 

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Depends on your budget. I have a couple Steinbergers, they're dirt cheap and just needed a good setup, because I wanted something I didn't have to worry about getting lost, stolen, or damaged.

Traveler makes some cool stuff too, I've taken their "Ultralight" series stuff traveling and didn't have any issues. Again, basic setup work and you're good to go.
Thanks, they all seem to be a bit below 400. I looked at traveler guitars and thought they cost around twice of what I would expect a guitar of that quality to cost but maybe it's just wrong to want to compare it with normal guitars.

I don't really have a budget set. Just wanted something worth the money. If it costs more, then it should be nice enough for me to like playing it also while not traveling.
 

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Hey I just realized: why is this thread in the luthiery section like there's something about Strandbergs that inherently needs fixing? :D
 

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When did the QC go downhill? I have a Standard 8 and Prog 7 from 2020 and they're fantastic.

The 7 is on par with the Prestige's I've owned, and the 8 is pretty nice too, though not as good.

Did they really go downhill that much in the last couple years?
 

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Hey I just realized: why is this thread in the luthiery section like there's something about Strandbergs that inherently needs fixing? :D
Because they do.

Nah in all seriousness, it started as a discussion thread back when Strandberg was a small custom shop, so it sat in the luthier thread.
 

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When did the QC go downhill? I have a Standard 8 and Prog 7 from 2020 and they're fantastic.

The 7 is on par with the Prestige's I've owned, and the 8 is pretty nice too, though not as good.

Did they really go downhill that much in the last couple years?
Has QC ever been good for these? Not even sure the custom shops were that incredible either, were they? (I'm asking genuinely to whomever has an answer, not trying to be an edgelord dick. 😅)
It's probably like most other guitars with known QC issues: the majority of units produced will be fine, but there is a higher than normal incidence of flaws per batch.
 

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Is the quality different depending on where you buy, Strandberg EU, Thomann, US,... ?
 
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