The Carvin / Kiesel thread

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The new one looks like it has a beer gut, compared to the Aries.
 

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Looks like a "reverse Dinky". Like the body is just every so slightly bigger than a normal Strat. Looks just fine as a 7.
 

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I don't like it. The Theos looks to me like someone's first self-built guitar where they tried to make a Strat but their drawings were off. I also don't really understand where it fits in Kiesel's lineup, it's not like they don't already have a bunch of superstrats. To me the Aries and DC models cover that territory nicely.
 

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it's meant for all the people that wanted a "delos, without the pickguard", for whom the Aries (even with the bevel delete) is too "modern" and "pointy".

The "easy" way to make that, which is the route they tookis to just square off the perimeter radius...but that makes it look too fat, too me. The rounded edges of the delos helps make it "appear" more slim than this. It's also the reason they won't offer the delos with this edge detail.

There's seems to be a market for this sort of thing, if only based on the fact that Kiesel continues to advertise in Vintage Guitar magazine: their only print ads. This seems to be something that would be very popular with that crowd (the crowd that isn't purist F snobs, anyway).
 

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it's meant for all the people that wanted a "delos, without the pickguard", for whom the Aries (even with the bevel delete) is too "modern" and "pointy".

The "easy" way to make that, which is the route they tookis to just square off the perimeter radius...but that makes it look too fat, too me. The rounded edges of the delos helps make it "appear" more slim than this. It's also the reason they won't offer the delos with this edge detail.

Then they could've just brought back the C66. It's not too pointy, it's not too wide. It can look modern or old school depending on woods and finishes.

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Then they could've just brought back the C66. It's not too pointy, it's not too wide. It can look modern or old school depending on woods and finishes.

That would have been the only model to use that neck/neck pocket, and they'd have to re-design the heel anyway. Plus, make the 24 fret version, and the 7-string version, and multiscale versions. Might very well have been easier to use their "Delos" model instead. If it would have sold enough of the c66, they would have kept it in the first place, I have to assume.

Plus, new Model = a bit of a press bump when other outlets report on it.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the c66. I was almost going to get a Bolt with the C66 edges....but got my Aries instead.
 
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Really digging the new model. That with a faded blue top and maple board would be killer
Probably my favourite Kiesel model so far

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Apparenlty the "base" price of the model is $1599 and that comes with a flamed maple top, matching headstock and rear in clear (their RNC option). For $100 less, you can get a plain top (with solid finishes only...no trans finishes), no headstock veneer, and the body is painted to match the top. You still get the BBE (Body Binding Effect) clear edge of the maple top.
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