spudmunkey
Well-Known Member
They finally FINALLY put out a pickup comparison video. Well..for the humbuckers, anyway.
The Carvin / Kiesel thread
- Thread starter soliloquy
- Start date
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links like Ebay, Amazon, and others.
This site may earn a commission from merchant links like Ebay, Amazon, and others.
Just dropping in to say i am in love with the X-type.
Headless. But not a boring superstrat, or a Strandberg-copy body shape that i am already tired of seeing on most headless guitars (its the headless version of Strat copying). Very cute, compact and original X/star shape.
But then, i have weird tastes i know =)
Headless. But not a boring superstrat, or a Strandberg-copy body shape that i am already tired of seeing on most headless guitars (its the headless version of Strat copying). Very cute, compact and original X/star shape.
But then, i have weird tastes i know =)
spudmunkey
Well-Known Member
mbardu
Well-Known Member
Ah I'm always wondering...
I see all those Kiesel nowadays who cost pretty much new price, or sometimes price higher than new on Reverb and I don't understand why. But they do seem to get buyers then
Let us know when you get it, I'm also intrigued by (and hopeful for) the trem.
Hollowway
Extended Ranger
Ah I'm always wondering...
I see all those Kiesel nowadays who cost pretty much new price, or sometimes price higher than new on Reverb and I don't understand why. But they do seem to get buyers then
Let us know when you get it, I'm also intrigued by (and hopeful for) the trem.
Yeah, to be fair it WAS cheaper than new. It has a few upgrades that I probably wouldn’t have gotten (like the swamp ash body and the hard shell case). And the sales tax on Reverb makes it less of a deal. The guitar costs new something like $1563 to $1674 (depending on the options), and I paid $1240, so I got like $300 or more dollars off. But, it’s not the screaming deal you can sometimes get with used Kiesels. Of course, the super expensive ones are usually such a rococo mix of colors and woods that it reminds me of a teenage girl that just discovered makeup. IMO the sexiest Kiesels are the ones that show a lot of restraint. It’s there that Jeff and I will have to agree to disagree.
Really impressed in how good the Holdsworth sounds under high gain.
Can't wait to try out once my VM7 arrives.
I really like it but I prefer the 6 and 7 string version ; the 8 just doesn't look right to me.
KnightBrolaire
Pickup Connoisseur
damn the holdsworths really impressed me. They seem super versatile without being quite as thin/harsh as the lithiums.
Illusionist was the winner there, IMO. Good clarity, and a more balanced midrange than the Lithium. Thorium did much better on crunch than it did on high-gain; I'd be kind of interested in hearing it with a high-gain sound with the gain set just a touch lower, since I think it may have just been oversaturating on the high-gain rhythm.
spudmunkey
Well-Known Member
Keep in mind the Holdsworths are unpotted.
spudmunkey
Well-Known Member
Does one need to?
Hollowway
Extended Ranger
Does anyone remember seeing a shot of the under-pickguard routing on the Delos model? I thought I saw someone post one, but I don’t remember where (or even if). @spudmunkey do you know of one? I’m curious if it’s more swimming pool or tight.
works0fheart
Tike Myson
How is Kiesel now days? Are they still a customer service nightmare when it comes to getting quality instruments or has that storm finally passed?
mbardu
Well-Known Member
As far as I'm aware, not much should have changed "customer service"-wise except they're getting even more business this day.
If you were in the camp of "Kiesel is terrible because of those couple of 'horror' stories" (full disclosure I was not and thought those were blown way out of proportion) then the situation is probably unchanged.
That is to say:
- things are usually fine 95% of the time with them (or I should say more than fine, their quality can really be stellar)
- if there is anything AT ALL that might be tricky, it is always best to call and talk to them, even before you are ready to order. I know many people are too "shy" to do that, but for better or for worse, it's what works best
- avoid anything super custom or non-returnable if you're not familiar with the process or if (as mentioned above) you don't want to talk to people on the phone. if particularly risk averse, just order a build covered by the no-risk return policy
- be aware that their business is growing like crazy so if something slips through the cracks, don't hesitate to call (again) to check what's up
They're not perfect. They should really streamline their 90's era website and ordering process. They should be better at support online for people who can't or don't like to deal over the phone. If you add a lot of cosmetic options, they lose a lot of their "value" appeal. Their style is not for everyone I know it's a subject of debate here
But as long as you are aware of what you're getting into they're great- and often there's little risk in giving them a shot.
Last edited:
spudmunkey
Well-Known Member
I do have to say, it seems like it's been a while since I've heard a "horror story".
As of today, the following items are retired. You still *might* be able to get one without the 10-day trial if you call.
LB 6-string bass
SCBM8
JB100
Multiscale versions of the Solo line
8-string Solo
HF2 "Fatboy"*
M22 pickups (these were announced that they were "while supplies last" for over 2 years.)
*the one I'm most sad about. Although it's construction was unlike any other model they make, and I would have loved to get one some day...bottom line is I (and many others) never bought one, so I cant blame them for retiring ut.
As of today, the following items are retired. You still *might* be able to get one without the 10-day trial if you call.
LB 6-string bass
SCBM8
JB100
Multiscale versions of the Solo line
8-string Solo
HF2 "Fatboy"*
M22 pickups (these were announced that they were "while supplies last" for over 2 years.)
*the one I'm most sad about. Although it's construction was unlike any other model they make, and I would have loved to get one some day...bottom line is I (and many others) never bought one, so I cant blame them for retiring ut.
toner
Contributor
Kiesels I currently have:
AM6 - First multiscale and I love it for the tuning I use. Excellent build no issues.
ST300H - dissatisfied with the quality on this one (bought 2nd hand from original buyer 3 months after he purchased it, no warranty). Insane fret sprout up to 1mm protrusion and lifting the clear coat plus visible grain through the finish.
BOLT kit - awesome quality no fret issues, full finish myself and it's perfect.
BOLT kit floyd rose - awesome quality no fret issues painted Corvette ZR1 blue
Priors: Carvin TL60 that was decent and had some minor fret sprout lifting the neck finish.
GP700x guitarporn limited run. This one was perfect all around just never played it.
AM6 - First multiscale and I love it for the tuning I use. Excellent build no issues.
ST300H - dissatisfied with the quality on this one (bought 2nd hand from original buyer 3 months after he purchased it, no warranty). Insane fret sprout up to 1mm protrusion and lifting the clear coat plus visible grain through the finish.
BOLT kit - awesome quality no fret issues, full finish myself and it's perfect.
BOLT kit floyd rose - awesome quality no fret issues painted Corvette ZR1 blue
Priors: Carvin TL60 that was decent and had some minor fret sprout lifting the neck finish.
GP700x guitarporn limited run. This one was perfect all around just never played it.
spudmunkey
Well-Known Member
Did anyone from Kiesel ever use the "GP7X" name, or was that something just that buyers in that run made up on their own to make their own DC7Xs seem somehow more unique.
BigViolin
...---...
Bummer, always loved the design of the body but couldn't gel with the overall look. This is the model that should have been headless. I guess that probably had to do with lifting the design from DeLap and not wanting to produce something close to a copy. I don't even know if DeLap is still building. Would be ironic if they finally produced the guitar that Allan really wanted at this point. I ordered a HH1 the day it was offered and would do the same for a headless fatboy.
narad
Progressive metal and politics
If you're not hearing about any recent nightmares, it's likely you're just in the eye of the storm.
