The Carvin / Kiesel thread

[Chri]

If anything, that just proves my point. Very scummy, in my opinion.

I get it, but at the same time, how many people go out of their way to make tribute guitars on their own anyway?
It's not like they're claiming Eddie used these or anything like that.

I don't see it as anything different than requesting a custom paint job to pay homage to a guitarist you like

 

[spudmunkey]

I purposefully modelled one of my guitars after the black Joe Perry Les Paul, despite this guitar not being a Gibson or Epiphone

 

[SalsaWood]

If we're tracking down people ripping off EVH there's a long list the world over. It has all but become a meme at this point, the pattern is almost as famous as the man. I think they look tasteful enough compared to the real deal.

 

[Moongrum]

What's funny is I don't even think it was about moving guitars, but their plugin instead


That said, I don't really care about the ethics or whatever of it as I have no sentimental/emotional attachment to Van Halen.

 

[FloridaST]

What's funny is I don't even think it was about moving guitars, but their plugin instead


That said, I don't really care about the ethics or whatever of it as I have no sentimental/emotional attachment to Van Halen.

Maybe it's just me but that plugin doesn't really sound that good.

 

[Moongrum]

Maybe it's just me but that plugin doesn't really sound that good.

tbh, I didn't even watch the video lol. So I did watch it, and retract my original statement, because at the end he says how people can order that finish and Jeff wanted to offer 22 fret floyd rose guitars as a tribute.

That said, as someone uninitiated with 80s rock/metal, the plugin sounded like 80s rock/metal guitar to me

 

[Marked Man]

They use the Nanoweb.

Nanowebs are also the factory strings for ESP E-IIs now. Not bad actually.

 

[FloridaST]

tbh, I didn't even watch the video lol. So I did watch it, and retract my original statement, because at the end he says how people can order that finish and Jeff wanted to offer 22 fret floyd rose guitars as a tribute.

That said, as someone uninitiated with 80s rock/metal, the plugin sounded like 80s rock/metal guitar to me

Maybe it's the guitar or the pickups, I dunno, just sounds meh to me.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

If anything, that just proves my point. Very scummy, in my opinion.

Yeah, definitely getting "Eddie's dead, we can do this now!" vibes. Since he was really the one that was so litigious about folks appropriating, or who he thought was anyhow, his designs.

 

[narad]

Yeah, definitely getting "Eddie's dead, we can do this now!" vibes. Since he was really the one that was so litigious about folks appropriating, or who he thought was anyhow, his designs.

Not nearly as bad IMO as the time he posted the vid reaction about Alan passing and spun it into ~getting those 7-string Holdsworths out there because I know Alan was really excited about it and I know you all are excited about it, so we're going to try to make that happen for you guys...

 

[Albake21]

I get it, but at the same time, how many people go out of their way to make tribute guitars on their own anyway?
It's not like they're claiming Eddie used these or anything like that.

I don't see it as anything different than requesting a custom paint job to pay homage to a guitarist you like

I somewhat get that, but that's not what happened here. Someone didn't request these, Kiesel did it themselves without saying a word. That, to me, speaks volumes.

They knew exactly what they are doing by putting these out there, knowing they can profit off of EVH's death and fans.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

Not nearly as bad IMO as the time he posted the vid reaction about Alan passing and spun it into ~getting those 7-string Holdsworths out there because I know Alan was really excited about it and I know you all are excited about it, so we're going to try to make that happen for you guys...

Dead Allan Holdsworth and dead Eddie Van Halen really want you to buy Kiesels they never played.

 

[JimF]

RIP Paganini you'd have loved a Kiesel Osiris.

 

[nightsprinter]

There's a guy a town over with a mailbox painted in EVH stripe design. Should I contact the lawyers?

Fr tho that headstock is blech

 

[CanserDYI]

I personally think that's a great headstock, one of the two or three good Kiesel ones, the others being the 7 string Holdsworth headstock and the pointed in line Jackson/ESP style one. The 6 string Holdsworth headstock looks awful, the Dean looking one looks awful, the PRS/Schecter Style one is okay-ish but still not my favorite.

 

[nightsprinter]

It's nowhere close to the worst I've ever seen, it just reminds me of a camels head.

 

[spudmunkey]

It's nowhere close to the worst I've ever seen, it just reminds me of a camels head.

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The old version has more of that vibe, IMO. I definitely prefer the newer "GT" to it.

 

[nightsprinter]

The old version has more of that vibe, IMO. I definitely prefer the newer "GT" to it.
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Dang you're right. In my mind I can just see the cig dangling out of Old Joe's mouth.

 

[The Monster With .]

The old version has more of that vibe, IMO. I definitely prefer the newer "GT" to it.
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Yeah, my old Carvin bolt kit has this headstock. Not brilliant, not terrible imo. I agree with you on the newer headstock.

 

[Moongrum]

Sorry to bring hot fire here:

I unknowingly bought a Kiesel that someone made a 22 page thread complaining about.

I love Kiesel guitars, and I also think that Jeff is a bit of an ass. I praised their customer service rep Cal for being great and people were like "but Jeff's a dick". People assume (especially on here) that if you like Kiesels you automatically approve of Jeff. I think the song Stranglehold...

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Not looking to discuss the argument at hand, just curious what is the pin that gets mentioned in regard to neck alignment? Is it like a dowel in the neck pocket?
I've only ever taken apart a Fender, and that's just 4 screws, I'm wondering if Kiesel uses other things in their neck pocket other than the bolts that attach the body and neck together.