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Does anyone have experience with D'Addario NXYL?
I've found a set of 80-09 which I think would be perfect for drop E on 8 string but I'm not sure if they're worth the price.
Should I give'em a try or stick to more "affordable" strings? (currently playing GHS boomers)
I'd think 10-46 or 10-48 + 65 or 66 would be closer. 11-52+70 is definitely going to have just a little more overall tension in Ab than 9.5-44+60 does at Bb.
It will be noticeable, u can do it but totally different feel. I can;t stand coated string and im glad that u have switched to Daddario NYXL. They last 6 months for meQuestion related to mixing a nanoweb 6 string set from elixir with a 7th "non coated" B string from another brand. Will there be a noticeable difference if the first 6 strings are nanoweb, and the 7th is not?
Elixir's 7-string set isn't quite the gauge I'm looking for, so I either have to mix brands (6+1) or just skip on coated strings.
For info, I would get the 9-46 hybrid set from Elixir, and add a low .062 from wherever.
Hi there!
New owner of a 7-string here (a few months) with a quick question. I'm on standard .009 gauge strings currently (9-54) on a 25.5 scale length guitar which works fantastically in B standard tuning and Drop A. While this is what I'm mostly going to stick to, I also enjoy occasionally tuning down to G C G C F A D (like Drop C but with a low G) which turns the lower strings awful floppy. I'd like to try to make the guitar as versatile as possible in terms of lower tunings so that I can mess about to find a sound I like, but it's very unlikely I'm going to be going down more than 2 tones.
I've done a little research and used a string tension calculator and I've settled on a couple of different gauges to try (I'll be buying Ernie Ball singles most likely) so that lower tunings are more tolerable, but I was wondering what the opinions of those in this thread would be regarding the tension and how it might affect the intonation, what string sets you would recommend from what I've picked, if there's anything I'm not thinking about.
I'm specifically worried about the tension on the higher gauges - the 70 set I've got below have over 21lbs of tension on the E2 and B1 when tuned to standard and I'm not sure if that's going to be too much considering the lowest I'm going to have will be 13lbs of tension on my B3.
current - 9 11 16 24 32 42 54 (standard 9s)
To trial - 9 12 16 24 32 48 64
To trial - 9 12 16 26 34 50 66
To trial - 9 12 16 26 36 52 70
It's safe to assume the actual gauges are 12-60, that would logically pair with the thicker 82. That's a pretty common Drop A# setup which is what Northlane uses for most of their stuff (with the low F). I personally would prefer 12-56 + 74/76, but that's just me.Hey guys I’m guessing this would be the best place for this question.
Iv recently built my 7 string back up and want to try a new tuning I want to go down to F at the bottom very much like Northlane now I know that josh from the band uses a custom set 12-82 which I would like to try anyone know the rest of the string gauges that may be used or come across a set that will do this. I have a 27” scale neck and normally I would use an 8 string set n ditch the lightest string but I’d like to get a balanced nice feeling set and iv never really looked into a custom set before.
Thanks
It's safe to assume the actual gauges are 12-60, that would logically pair with the thicker 82. That's a pretty common Drop A# setup which is what Northlane uses for most of their stuff (with the low F). I personally would prefer 12-56 + 74/76, but that's just me.
So... I'm confused. It sounds like you are saying you have a .070" for your low string and you want to replace it with a 0.160"? I think one is a guitar string and the other is a bass string.
Low G on a guitar is no big deal, but you'll want something with an extended scale length. If you are rocking a Jackson with a 26.5" scale, then that should do, although it honestly would sound just a little brighter and tighter on a longer scale guitar, but you aren't tuning down to uncharted territory there. A 0.070" would be what I would recommend as a first guess. If it's too little tension, try something thicker or something with a heavier core or something with denser winds. There's really not much more you can do to get better tension than that.
Low G on a bass, though, is a big deal. I know we've been through this before, but you keep asking, and the laws of physics, unfortunately, are staying the same. If you tune lower than A on bass, I always recommend an extended scale length. The reason I do that, is because the lowest notes on a bass are going to sound like crap on a short scale bass tuned that low, and there are a half dozen reasons why:
1. If the string itself is too loose, no pickup is going to be able to make it sound good.
2. If the string is too thick, the harmonic content of the vibration will no longer match the harmonic overtone series within the discretion of human hearing, which makes the note sound bad. Again, no matter how great your pickups or electronics are, there is not a way that those devices can correct the problem.
3. There is a sweet spot for string gauge, dependent on scale length and tuning, but the shorter the scale and the lower the tuning, the smaller the sweet spot gets until it disappears. You cannot arbitrarily tune down any instrument at any scale length simply by using thicker strings and still expect a playable string with a bright tone.
So, to address your issue with the guitar, I'd try a 0.074". If it sounds worse than your .070", then I'm afraid you might be left without any other options than to a) tune up, b) settle for a lighter gauge than what feels best, or c) get another guitar with a longer neck.
To address your bass, keep in mind that the bass you are using is not extended scale, like your guitar, so you will have to be more aggressive. Throw some big ol' kalium strings on there and hope for the best. Keep in mind that it might sound less-than-beefy live, but still sound great in the mix, and keep an open mind to working around the challenges you will face. Kalium makes a 0.174" that would give you about 40 pounds of tension at 34", but it's about $24 USD. I can't comment on how your pickups will handle that much string, but it probably won't be exceptionally great. If you don't like the sound of it, which I think is quite likely, it will likely be due to concerns I have with your setup that are not easily remedied. But maybe you'll like it, so it'd probably be worth a shot. Are you just doing this for recording, or do you need an amp and speaker cabinet for bass, too? If you need a rig, then you'll need to be even more careful selecting a cab that can handle such low frequencies without breaking up. fEarful cab kits seem to be all the rage when it comes to this sort of thing, but I like using an 18" sub with a 410 cab and a crossover with two amps, to keep the low notes from sucking the power out of everything else.
At any rate, for drop G on bass, I still recommend a >35" scale with some decent electronics geared more toward sub-contra frequencies. It's doable at 34", but only with a lot of experimentation to get around issues and limitations you're bound to have just for the fact that you are trying to take an instrument that was never intended to be tuned nearly that low and tune lower than pretty much everyone else is doing. I mean, there are reasons why you don't find bass players tuning lower than G# or even A most of the time, unless they are spending a lot of money on fancy gadgets to get them sounding decent tuned that low. Really a 39.55" Knuckle/Quake bass with a fEarful cab and a decent amp is going to cost you $3-4k CAD or so, at least, but will give you tons of options for tuning super low. I think that you don't need to go that far, but I do think that you are going to need a $1500-2000 CAD setup, to say the least, to get a usable live sound for bass in drop G, by the time you get everything you need to make sure no one component bottlenecks the quality of your tone. If you are just recording, then none of this conversation really matters. Just tune what you have to whichever tuning is comfortable, then pitch shift down to G from there.
Whoah, okay...Sorry! I was talking about two different instruments at the same time! >.<
The JS32-7 has a 70-gauge string that's too light for me, so I'm thinking of moving it up to about 76 or something along those lines.
The SR405EQM has a 145-gauge string that's too light for me, so I'm considering to replace that with a 160-gauge string.
So... a larger-scale bass is in order huh... Okay, I'll look into it... T.T
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