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Emperor Guillotine
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I mean...
She knows how to "play the game" and has lost everything that she cares about in the process. Plus, you have to be cruel and cold-hearted to win at something like this, it seems.
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she's got an heir in the oven
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This shit right here knocked it out of the park for me.
PunkBillCarson
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Ok, last one, I swear, guys. 
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Whoops. Wrong screencap. This was the one that I meant.
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And the great Cleganebowl.
Every episode for the rest of the season now has to have a miraculous Arya one-shot kill out of nowhere.
Every episode for the rest of the season now has to have a miraculous Arya one-shot kill out of nowhere.
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And the great Cleganebowl.
Every episode for the rest of the season now has to have a miraculous Arya one-shot kill out of nowhere.
Queue Arya walking away from explosion toward camera....and scene.
mongey
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the biggest miss with Sam is I think It could have been a great story line if he was in the crypt and had to defend everyone from the stark zombies . way better than him fucking aorund in the battle
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Humorous, little video explaining how and why the writing on the show has gone to total shit.
wankerness
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That is one tortured metaphor. If that episode were going to be compared to anything it would be overly dark, pixelated, badly framed, snow clouds obscuring everything, and often incoherent but with some occasional boring slow bits. So...to make it sexual, maybe like amateur Japanese porn filmed in the backseat of a car during a snowstorm.
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I’m so glad that the Night King battle is finally out of the way so that we can now focus on the real showdown that has been built up for eight seasons.
WHAT IS HYPE MAY NEVER DIE.
On a related note...
WHAT IS HYPE MAY NEVER DIE.
On a related note...
wankerness
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Clegane Bowl will probably be resolved by Arya stabbing the Mountain. The Hound will give her a thumbs up and half smile. Really, though, is the actor even going to be able to move in that ridiculous suit he has now enough to duel anyone?
Likewise, the conflict between Cersei and her brothers will be resolved by Arya stabbing her in the back while they stand around uselessly (if they even make it to her). This actually seems like it's what's going to happen based on that Melisandre dialogue.
Likewise, the conflict between Cersei and her brothers will be resolved by Arya stabbing her in the back while they stand around uselessly (if they even make it to her). This actually seems like it's what's going to happen based on that Melisandre dialogue.
I kind of love what happened with the Night King, tbh. Jon has been such a useless moron so consistently, especially in these battle episodes, that it was perfect that his showdown with the night king consisted of him being such a putz that he just stood there and waited for the night king to rez everyone, upon which he decided to fight wights instead of rush through them to stab the NK. So, even though the whole plot has been pointing at the ultimate showdown being between those two, what happened is kind of better.
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Drew
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I wouldn't put it quite so strongly, but I'd generally agree with this.
I guess it helps that I reread the books in prep for season 8, and remembered all over how different they get than the series. I'd strongly agree that the book is veering towards the message that all of the political squabbles south of the wall don't matter compared to the thread of what's north of the wall. Heck, that's why Jon Snow as assassinated as Lord Commander, and in the books we don't even know for sure yet if he's going to be brought back, or even technically speaking if the attack was even fatal since it ends with him blacking out while being stabbed and then there's no independent confirmation of his death in A Dance With Dragons after that point.
But, the show goes in a very different direction. By the end of Season 7 it was clear that the North would have to deal with the Night King early on and THEN turn to the Iron Throne. The series, and let's not forget it's called Game of Thrones and not A Song of Ice and Fire, has been building up to a fight to put someone on the throne. The only real question was if they would succeed, and for plot reasons I figured they pretty much HAD to.
Again, broken record... Zero problem with Arya and the one-shot kill. Jon did the same thing to a White Walker in Hardhome, and Sam at Craster's Keep. Getting cut with Valerian steel or dragonglass just causes them to shatter.
Your post a few down - that's actually a not-impossible scenario, that the reason Winds of Winter hasn't yet been published is because he's waiting until after the TV series is finished, to then go and take it in a radically different direction.
But, the show goes in a very different direction. By the end of Season 7 it was clear that the North would have to deal with the Night King early on and THEN turn to the Iron Throne. The series, and let's not forget it's called Game of Thrones and not A Song of Ice and Fire, has been building up to a fight to put someone on the throne. The only real question was if they would succeed, and for plot reasons I figured they pretty much HAD to.
Again, broken record... Zero problem with Arya and the one-shot kill. Jon did the same thing to a White Walker in Hardhome, and Sam at Craster's Keep. Getting cut with Valerian steel or dragonglass just causes them to shatter.
Your post a few down - that's actually a not-impossible scenario, that the reason Winds of Winter hasn't yet been published is because he's waiting until after the TV series is finished, to then go and take it in a radically different direction.
Drew
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First, spoiler that!
I mean, in theory, I agree. I like that Jon trying to do the heroic thing with a broadsword just simply didn't work, and honestly it kind of shows he still has some learning and some growing up to do.
I just think having Arya be the one to do it was a copout. You can't have two seperate prophesies in the show and then throw both of them out the window. Super satisfying scene to watch in the moment, but it's a plot arc they didn't earn, IMO. Ditto with her and Sansa and Littlefinger - that still bothers me, because that twist only works because you never see the two sisters working together off screen, so in the moment you think Sansa is condeming Arya to death until at the last second she names Littlefinger. That's cheating.
I just think having Arya be the one to do it was a copout. You can't have two seperate prophesies in the show and then throw both of them out the window. Super satisfying scene to watch in the moment, but it's a plot arc they didn't earn, IMO. Ditto with her and Sansa and Littlefinger - that still bothers me, because that twist only works because you never see the two sisters working together off screen, so in the moment you think Sansa is condeming Arya to death until at the last second she names Littlefinger. That's cheating.
wankerness
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The arya sansa littlefinger thing is total BS. Some people were stretching it into something that preserved their characters as something other than morons (ie, it was all an act, with a couple of the scenes with no witnesses having weirder explanations), but then the writers gave an interview saying that nope, it really was them being as stupid as you think.
It's one of the worst plotlines in the entire show, it's horribly handled and really undermines both their characters. "Sansa is the smartest woman I've ever met," I guess you haven't met many women!
It's one of the worst plotlines in the entire show, it's horribly handled and really undermines both their characters. "Sansa is the smartest woman I've ever met," I guess you haven't met many women!
Drew
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Ahh, that I didn't know - I remember reading theories at the time that their tension was an act because every tense showdown they were fighting in front of an audience, with someone there to observe them. At the time I thought that sounded like implausible bullshit, but then they turned on Littlefinger together. I kind of assumed it was supposed to be a joint teamwork sort of thing, but if the showrunners are saying Littlefinger HAD tricked them, until that last moment... That's dumb.
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One thing that has really bugged me about the latest episode aside from the piss-poor writing, the horrible visual problems (everyone all over the internet is raging about this), and the bad audio is the situation with Lyanna Mormont.
Yeah, this just testifies that no one behind Game of Thrones really gives a shit anymore.
(At least, the execs and post-production tedon't seem to care. The pre-production team and writers don't seem to care though. It's all a rushed job for them.) I'm sure that the production crew of locals shooting everything out in Europe do care.)
Ok, I get it. D&D were trying to be cutesy by having the physically smallest character face off against the physically largest character so that they could pass it off as saying: "Oh, this is us being deep, bro." But holy cow, the death of Lyanna Mormont is a trainwreck that gets worse the longer you look at it.
First, there were several giants in the wight army. Why does the episode only portray there being just one? (And it's not a case of "the audience only sees one". No. The way the event with the one giant charging through the doors of Winterfell is played up, the writers were clearly trying to communicate that: "There is only one giant. This is the one big, bad weapon of the wight army.") What happened to all of the other undead giants?
Second, why would the giant lift Lyanna Mormont to its face? WHY? It definitely wasn't going to eat her because wights don't eat. Ever. (Hello, they're dead!) If you catch a pest in your home like a cockroach or a mouse or a rat, do you grab the thing and lift it to your face as if to inspect it? No, you don't. You trap, kill, stomp, squish, do whatever to the damn thing. Come on...
Third, in the moment when Lyanna screams before being grabbed by the giant, the audience sees her holding a single-sided, dragonglass battle axe. IT IS CLEARLY A FUCKING BATTLE AXE. NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT. And when the giant pulls her towards its face, the battle axe somehow magically is transformed into a sword that Lyanna stabs into the giant's left eye. IT IS CLEARLY A FUCKING SWORD. NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT.
So, you're going to tell me that all of the editors on the post-production team, the story producer (and any other producers present to view cuts), the director of the episode, and D&D (as the executive producers and showrunners) all did not even care to look at this glaring inconsistency and horrible editing of two takes with two obviously way different weapons?
First, there were several giants in the wight army. Why does the episode only portray there being just one? (And it's not a case of "the audience only sees one". No. The way the event with the one giant charging through the doors of Winterfell is played up, the writers were clearly trying to communicate that: "There is only one giant. This is the one big, bad weapon of the wight army.") What happened to all of the other undead giants?
Second, why would the giant lift Lyanna Mormont to its face? WHY? It definitely wasn't going to eat her because wights don't eat. Ever. (Hello, they're dead!) If you catch a pest in your home like a cockroach or a mouse or a rat, do you grab the thing and lift it to your face as if to inspect it? No, you don't. You trap, kill, stomp, squish, do whatever to the damn thing. Come on...
Third, in the moment when Lyanna screams before being grabbed by the giant, the audience sees her holding a single-sided, dragonglass battle axe. IT IS CLEARLY A FUCKING BATTLE AXE. NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT. And when the giant pulls her towards its face, the battle axe somehow magically is transformed into a sword that Lyanna stabs into the giant's left eye. IT IS CLEARLY A FUCKING SWORD. NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT.
So, you're going to tell me that all of the editors on the post-production team, the story producer (and any other producers present to view cuts), the director of the episode, and D&D (as the executive producers and showrunners) all did not even care to look at this glaring inconsistency and horrible editing of two takes with two obviously way different weapons?
Yeah, this just testifies that no one behind Game of Thrones really gives a shit anymore.
(At least, the execs and post-production tedon't seem to care. The pre-production team and writers don't seem to care though. It's all a rushed job for them.) I'm sure that the production crew of locals shooting everything out in Europe do care.)
