Envoy Guitars = ViK (Seriously, f*ck this guy.)

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Yeah that's far too similar to dismiss.
 

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Yeah that's far too similar to dismiss.

Yeah the shape itself is pretty much exactly the Vik Domineer. I thought it was a knockoff but then I noticed the chair shots. I'm surprised he's not using his existing name recognition to market it

Vik Domineer

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in one of the vik threads someone found that vik had started a new company (they found his business license).
 

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Not wanting to be a d!ck here and reopen old wounds, but... isn’t there something vaguely ironic about a ViK thread featuring both headless guitars and rainbow finishes ? ;)

Not lost on me either. I think a year or two ago he went on a "see I'm fixed now!" tear to try and reboot his reputation. I don't think trying to be a luthier in SoCal in 2021 is the time to get away with being homophobic and anti-headless.
 

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Yeah the shape itself is pretty much exactly the Vik Domineer. I thought it was a knockoff but then I noticed the chair shots. I'm surprised he's not using his existing name recognition to market it

I think there's more bad around his name recognition than good, I'm actually surprised he didn't go to further lengths to hide his association.
 

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I didn't realize he existed much outside of SSO.

I think he exists largely for 2 customers who have rooms of like 12+ of his guitars. One of those guys went on a selling spree and ditched at least 6 of them the same time I was trying to get rid of mine... that was rough. Total free fall firesale.
 

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I didn't realize he existed much outside of SSO.

31k followers on Insta, 73k followers on Facebook as of today anyway. I see his stuff get shared quite often. I don't know how that is translating to sales necessarily, although he did flex his Porsche last year.
 

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31k followers on Insta, 73k followers on Facebook as of today anyway. I see his stuff get shared quite often. I don't know how that is translating to sales necessarily, although he did flex his Porsche last year.

Yeah I get Vik ads on Instagram almost on a daily basis. I don't have Facebook but I'd imagine it's the same there.
 

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he clearly took all the money from the people in the runs and deposits to finance his move to America. somehow he is still staying on top with all the people he screwed over. this dude really needs to be taken down already.

And this right here actually explains IMO why now you will get a guitar if you order from him, and he has no intention of building the guitars he’s owed.

Since he used that money to finance moving to America, he doesn’t currently have a $$$ need for such an “important” endeavor and if he built those guitars it would almost be like he’s not being paid for them (since if he needed X amount it move to America and apparently the labor involved to build these guitars couldn’t be used towards the move if he had done it the ethical way, then building them now would be like returning that X amount so he’d be in debt by the X amount to fund his current lifestyle)
 

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If he’s launching a new guitar company, it would seem to be a good idea for those screwed over by him to get together and all sue him. Even small claims court. Then they could ask the judge to pay them out of any proceeds from the new endeavor. It’s possible that a lawyer might even do it on contingency if there are enough people.
 

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I think he exists largely for 2 customers who have rooms of like 12+ of his guitars. One of those guys went on a selling spree and ditched at least 6 of them the same time I was trying to get rid of mine... that was rough. Total free fall firesale.

I've seen pictures of collections like that and I honestly don't get it. 5-6 figures of the same brand? Must be every small time luthier's dream to get a hook into someone like that.

31k followers on Insta, 73k followers on Facebook as of today anyway. I see his stuff get shared quite often. I don't know how that is translating to sales necessarily, although he did flex his Porsche last year.

It's a 987 Boxster. Depending on trim level, transmission, and when he made the purchase it's a $15 (automatic base)-35k (manual special edition or S) car. Or less than a well options Toyota Camry. Excellent car, but also surprisingly affordable if you don't care about only having 2 seats. Vik would be one of those clowns that flexes a base automatic Boxster.
 

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It's a 987 Boxster. Depending on trim level, transmission, and when he made the purchase it's a $15 (automatic base)-35k (manual special edition or S) car. Or less than a well options Toyota Camry. Excellent car, but also surprisingly affordable if you don't care about only having 2 seats. Vik would be one of those clowns that flexes a base automatic Boxster.

A clown flexes a base automatic Boxter. An entitled asshole flexes a base automatic Boxster and tells you that after 10 years he still doesn't have enough money for a refund.
 
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