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There's a lot more rigtalk in this site than I had originally thought.
Do you worry about guitar graphics and the potential meaning?
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I never liked graphics of any kind in guitars, so I guess I'm safe 
Probably because ignorance of belicist events it's usually cooler when you see flags of other countries in guitars. But man, If I ever see someone playing a guitar with a spanish flag live I'm walking the fuck out.
Probably because ignorance of belicist events it's usually cooler when you see flags of other countries in guitars. But man, If I ever see someone playing a guitar with a spanish flag live I'm walking the fuck out.
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Zeppelinskies
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Interesting question. But as a half jew who owns all the Hannemans, and who's best friend is Jewish - he doesn't care at all about the S&Key or the H dagger or thr Imperial Eagle. Because he knows me, and knows I'm not racist - I just like Slayer. And that's all good.
I think there's an interesting point here about not judging a book by its cover, and people are seldom black and white.
wiretap
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A takeaway from this thread:
Dean will make all your racist dream guitars a reality.
Dean will make all your racist dream guitars a reality.
As a citizen of a country, that was firm ally of Germany in both World Wars and THEN was a communist country for 45 years, I can't tell you only this:
If there is 5 people sitting at the table and one of them is a bass player, the other four kick him out of the bar...
If there is 5 people sitting at the table and one of them is a bass player, the other four kick him out of the bar...
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prlgmnr
...that kind of idea
As someone who worked in a restaurant, when is there ever a table of 5?
soul_lip_mike
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I wonder sometimes If I had a chance to buy a legit USA Washburn (not dean)dime rebel for a reasonable price…I usually think I’d definitely do it as a cool collector’s piece. I’d keep it in its case and not share it with anyone. Then again, it would be weird having a guitar I basically can’t play anywhere except home in isolation. It would be a neat collector’s piece to have in terms of value, though.
That said, the weirdest fucking thing is the Dean facebook groups full of hillbillies playing guitars built in Asia with confederate flags on them saying “GETCHA PULL!”
That said, the weirdest fucking thing is the Dean facebook groups full of hillbillies playing guitars built in Asia with confederate flags on them saying “GETCHA PULL!”
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Mine is the first run w/ a Floyd instead of Kahler and EMG's. Sounds killer for metal.
Graphics don't bother me at all.
Jeff's guitars in Slayer are a perfect example. Never once bothered me. If Jeff had lots of tattoos of hatred, and every Slayer song was about genocide of a certain group of people, then I would consider him to be a Nazi. But art is entirely subjective, and many people that seem normal collect very bizarre things, even for shock value.
But in general, I can't think of a guitar with inlays or graphics that really offended me. Probably one out there somewhere, but I have yet to see it.
Now there are guitar shapes, brands, and prices that greatly offend me, but that is for another post!
Jeff's guitars in Slayer are a perfect example. Never once bothered me. If Jeff had lots of tattoos of hatred, and every Slayer song was about genocide of a certain group of people, then I would consider him to be a Nazi. But art is entirely subjective, and many people that seem normal collect very bizarre things, even for shock value.
But in general, I can't think of a guitar with inlays or graphics that really offended me. Probably one out there somewhere, but I have yet to see it.
Now there are guitar shapes, brands, and prices that greatly offend me, but that is for another post!
Fenriswolf
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I thought about buying one of the rebel flag Deans back in the day, played a handful of them (not just the rebel flag, but just Dimes in general) and they were all so shit the flag's not what I'm judging you for if you have one.
IbanezDaemon
Raptus regaliter
I'm a Roman Catholic and own the guitar below...Daemoness 'Conception of the AntiChrist'..which features a lot of 'religious' persecution from unfounded fear and paranoia which swept Europe for several centuries. The graphic on the back is taken from various publications of the infamous Malleus Maleficarum....a book which was responsible for deaths of countless thousands of innocent people in the Middle Ages. The question is does it offend the average person as opposed to Nazi Symbolism on a guitar? At what cut off point does history offend and then become okay? There's a lot of metal album covers you can fire into this argument as well. Do you totally wash over history...no matter how dark it may be? Does this history need to be on guitars? I dunno....it's a difficult subject for sure. Nobody alluded to this Daemoness being offensive when I posted it online before.
Rear of the Year 1486:
Rear of the Year 1486:
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jaxadam
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The only graphics that should be on a guitar are a 5A quilt maple top.
Fenriswolf
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jaxadam
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There’s a saying “not all skinfolk are kinfolk”. Im also reminded of posts elsewhere along the lines of “well im First Nations and this doesnt bother me” which strongly implies that person can speak for others of their background…
narad
Progressive metal and politics
That guitar's a history lesson. I legitimately learned something from Dylan's discussion of both the source material and the process of reproducing it on the guitar. I can't pretend that it deserves to be considered next to a guitar with a swastika or SS runes on it because someone "thought they were cool" or thinks "nazi stuff is cool". I find it hard to be offended when the reference event is treated with a great deal of knowledge and maturity (and yes, I'm even going to say that when the devil's showing his butthole to that lady).
Big Dumb Bitch
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How hard is it to not purchase or own a guitar with a hate symbol on it? Like????
Best case scenario is that you look like a cringe edgelord with shit taste and worst case is you look like a massive bigot Nazi lover and a big dummy.
Best case scenario is that you look like a cringe edgelord with shit taste and worst case is you look like a massive bigot Nazi lover and a big dummy.
Fenriswolf
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I mean, that was kinda Slayer's thing, just with some sick ass riffs to go along with it.
TedEH
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I mean, a really simple answer to that might be when it's long enough ago to be just history and not a current problem. Nazi imagery is a big problem because we're still dealing with nazis. Since we're no longer in the middle ages, that graphic of satan's butthole isn't likely to rile up many witch hunters or whatever - anyone who recognizes the image (I didn't, I had to google it) understands it as a historical reference instead of a dogwhistle. When we're far enough removed from actual nazism, then sure, it can be taken as a historical collectors piece or an aesthetic. But we 'aint there yet.
Makes me think of that meme with the PETA billboard showing a bunch of animals and asking "but where do you draw the line?!", and someone drew the obvious line on it. Frankly, the line here is also pretty obvious.
